ucw458 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 True if you can find a shop that does mandrel, but it ain't going to be stainless. I got a quote from a shop near me that does mandrel bending. Their quote was $400 for stainless. That's why I posted it. I built my own exhaust out of stainless and the pipe + mandrel bends was about $100. Most of that cost was the mandrel bends. Cost of pipe would be cheaper if I just got a 10' section of pipe and bent it myself instead of an 8' section of pipe and 5 mandrel bends. But I don't have the bending equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 A non mandrel regular exhaust steel system from turbo back will run $400 easy here, non-mandrel. $80/hour labor plus muffler, flex, ss piping, etc. A 3" flex section can run $50 at a shop alone. A decade ago they were around $300. Obviously if the OP could weld his own up he wouldn't be asking about pricing though but DIY is always cheaper because you don't charge yourself for labor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87TSiStock Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 how can i find a mookeeh b pipe? doesnt seem to be any around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Because there isn't any. It's a cat-back system. The cat is on the b-pipe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87TSiStock Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 So all i need is the downpipe adn the catback system how about if im reducing back to 2.5 after the downpipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 You'll have to have the mid b pipe made. Mookeh only offers a down pipe and the cat back system. Why they didn't go ahead and do a turbo back is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTTY Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) The Mookie 'B' pipe does exist , i have one , if you email Mr M Ja at 101Propose and ask he'll sell you one if he has any available , that's how got mine, he has put them up for sale on Ebay in the past but very rarely . Edited October 16, 2014 by SOTTY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Interesting........never seen one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTTY Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Interesting........never seen one.Something of a rarity but they exist , 'B' pipe / off road use only deal , drop M Ja at Mookie/101Propose an email, ask and if your lucky you shall receive , fits like a glove between the new or old design Mookie 3'' down pipe and the rest of the cat back system , the missing link if you wish to call it that , its a nice system , I'm very happy with mine. Edited October 16, 2014 by SOTTY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosFley Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 nope not at all over kill.i drove cross country from NY to California with the 3 inch turbo back.its a good investment for future mods. the next mod should be porting the exhaust manifold to turbo opening.it is a bottle neck for sure. it is time consuming but a good free mod ifyou have the time to do it. PM'D pertaining this detail. Totally off-topic, just ignore this message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_lord Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Stupidish question, but what is the advantage of a mandrel bending/what exactly is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_99 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Something of a rarity but they exist , 'B' pipe / off road use only deal , drop M Ja at Mookie/101Propose an email, ask and if your lucky you shall receive , fits like a glove between the new or old design Mookie 3'' down pipe and the rest of the cat back system , the missing link if you wish to call it that , its a nice system , I'm very happy with mine. Absolutely true. Several years back, they did a large group buy for us with 4 options for full exhaust systems, between polished or regular stainless and 2.5" or 3" with and or without a muffler was also another option. I have one from that GB and it is a nice setup. In their B pipe, there is a resonator can instead of the cat which is what makes it off road use only, but unless you are in Cali or some other very strict emissions state, you wont have a problem with it. Stupidish question, but what is the advantage of a mandrel bending/what exactly is it? Mandrel bent tubing is a process where an inner spring or set of dies is inserted into the tubing before and during the bending process. This keeps to inside of the radius from caving in and causing a kink in the metal which creates drag on the exhaust gases and a lesser performing exhaust. You can see a lot of different examples of the comparison here at google images. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=775&q=mandrel+bent+vs+crush+bent&oq=mandrel+bent&gs_l=img.1.5.0l6j0i24l4.1137.4607.0.8178.14.13.1.0.0.0.82.825.13.13.0.msedrc...0...1ac.1.56.img..0.14.826.bAcfII9XfsY Hope that answers your question. BC_99 Edited October 17, 2014 by BC_99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_lord Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 So the smoother the pipe the better the flow... Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 So the smoother the pipe the better the flow... Makes sense.Easiest way to say it is your exhaust is only as big as the smallest part. Mandrel bends keep the diameter of the tube the same at the bends, non-mandrel bends pinch the tube some. When I had no access to mandrel bends back in the day I would get the tubing a 1/2" larger than needed to compensate for the pinched bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87TSiStock Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Okay I thought of anther question. If I were to upgrade to like a 16g turbo would the mookeeh downpipe still fit? And would I need a whole retune or could I just bolt it on and call it good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87TSiStock Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Actually instead of 16g how about just any turbo that will bolt on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'87quest Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 What are you using to tune? I ran a S16G with my stock MAF for a while and didn't have any problems but it's much better to get a gm maf and translator and a wideband gauge so you can tune your afrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'87quest Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 And yeah a 16g will bolt up to the same downpipe.. Unless you use a turbo made for something else then most likely not. Mine is the same three bolt flange. Drake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87TSiStock Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 that was kinda the next part on what would be the best way to tune it this is all stuff that will happen just not at this moment just getting ideas and thanks just getting a lot of new info i need to learn the ways of forced induction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 that was kinda the next part on what would be the best way to tune it this is all stuff that will happen just not at this moment just getting ideas and thanks just getting a lot of new info i need to learn the ways of forced induction All the TD05 standard upgrades like the Super16G bolt right on, you can run one with minor mods if your car is healthy. The problem is, Mitsu turbos are getting scarce for Starions these days and expensive. Other options like T4 flanged turbos will require either an adapter for the exhaust manifold or a different exhaust manifold, and modified downpipe at the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 I know this is an old post, but I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this for me. Does the TEP 2.5in downpipe bolt up to the Mookeeh 2.5in catback exhaust system? Someone told me that the TEP downpipe utilizes the stock cat's ball and socket design for flex, however the Mookeeh exhaust uses a flat flange...this concerns me as I just bought both the TEP pipe and Mookeeh system and was expecting to be able to bolt them together no problems. Can someone help me with this? Thanks. Coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Coke!! Your still out there! Wow. Good to see you. I bought a downpipe years ago that someone told me was a TEP. Doesn't mean it was though. It had a flat flange and it bolted up to my Mookeeh 2.5 cat back just fine - which I bought new. I don't want to give you false hope. Were you not able to see online pics of the DP you bought from TEP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 It should work for either. I also have a downpipe that was given to me with my driver quest, that I believe to be a TEP but can't confirm. It has the chamfer seat which allows mating to the factory exhaust (which is how I have it installed) but it has a two bolt flange which should work fine with a standard 2.25" 2 bolt exhaust gasket. I think you should be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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