NikoFab Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 http://gearpatrol.com/2014/04/07/bring-back-the-mitsubishi-starion/ http://gearpatrol.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Mitsubishi-Starion-Gear-Patrol-Lead-Full.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Seriously - the 4B11 is a "World" Engine - the Hyundai Genesis Turbo is the RWD variant. Mitsubishi, you want to gain car sales? Make a sub-30k, rwd 6spd turbocharged coupe to compete against the BRZ/FRS, 370Z, Mustang Turbo, etc and make sure your interior quality is up to snuff. None of this $40k for an economy car interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twojayzeestarion Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I think they would ruin it if they made a new one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) square out the back end a little and any of these 3 is what a new mitsu starion should look like IMO.....but seeing as they are all high end cars i doubt mitsu would have the balls or intelligence to copy the design and make it affordable, fast, and well built http://fourtitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/profiles-compared-960x843.jpg Edited December 9, 2014 by Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Cary Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Naw just release it like it looks now. Update the interior and throw a nice 280hp 4b11 setup in there. Sell it in the 25k price range fully loaded 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 These cars were pricey for what they were when they were new, they weren't really thought of as economical. Then came the 3000 GT which was the "successor", and that car wasn't cheap either. As a brand, Mitsu is on the rocks having narrowly survived a bankrupcy scare a few years back. Like with the Starion, motorsports is where they derive their sporty cars, and they went away from RWD rally cars in the 80's. Since then, all their sporty cars are AWD cars that have a direct link with the rally world, it's like their one point of pride in the racing world. Not sure how they would change that, maybe by teaming up with Hyundai and using the Genesis coupe platform as a base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINASQ Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was recently almost bankrupt? Anyway, 25k for a rwd manual 280hp car with great interior is stupid. At 25k and you want all that? Lets be real here. You have to compromise at 25k. You're asking mitsubishi to make a car with everything for the price of nothing. Edited December 9, 2014 by GINASQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 If they did bring it back it wouldn't be a $20-25k car. SQs cost around $20k new. Back then you could get a Japanese truck for $5k. Granted that was the base model but fully loaded wasn't much more. A new SQ would probably fit into the $40-60k price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcristquester Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I think it would help the value of our cars, but I'm not into them for that. I think it would bring a crowd of people to our scene, probably more for the worse than for the better. Definitely close to the cost to, if not exceeding modern muscle cars current prices. If they were to venture there, they should go all out and try to compete or beat the GTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 If they were to venture there, they should go all out and try to compete or beat the GTR. That wont happen. Just like GM with the Corvette, Mitsu wont build a car faster than the EVO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntercooledFlatty Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 and it's an 85.5 in the posted pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was recently almost bankrupt? I didn't say MHI, I'm referring to the Mitsubishi Motors automotive division. MHI is like a multinational mega corporation making everything from oil rigs to ships to aircraft. Mistubishi Motors was losing up to $700 million every six months at some points during the last decade. That meant that Mistubishi's parent corporation was subsidizing the company... usually that leads to restructuring or bankrupcy. Edited December 9, 2014 by Fuze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINASQ Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Oh okay. I thought you meant mhi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was recently almost bankrupt? Anyway, 25k for a rwd manual 280hp car with great interior is stupid. At 25k and you want all that? Lets be real here. You have to compromise at 25k. You're asking mitsubishi to make a car with everything for the price of nothing. That's no longer the case today. Take the 2015 Ecoboost Mustang for example. 310hp/320lb/tq, soft plastics interior ( e.g. not EVERYTHING is cheap plastic that just rattles everywhere like an Evo X is. Even Subaru improved their interior over the years on the STi since 2008 ). Base price is $25k. That's a 6spd, with the 3.31 limited slip ( you can't not get it without ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Sadly Mitsubishi Motors has continually expressed NO interest in getting into the sports car segment again. It started with the 3000GT back in 2001 and then the Eclipse in 2012 and now the Lancer Evolution in 2015. Their motor division has been ran into the ground sadly. They're counting on their efficient cars to bring them out of the dregs of the automotive hell, but I'm afraid it's too late. Expect Mitsubishi Motors to withdraw from the U.S. market by 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainstreaM Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 From everything I've seen and read about, Mitsu is positioning themselves to be at the forefront of electric cars when their sales really take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 From everything I've seen and read about, Mitsu is positioning themselves to be at the forefront of electric cars when their sales really take off. When. Nissan is destroying the market with the Leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcristquester Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'm glad there are a bunch of these tree hugger cars, keeps gas prices down even though it's not actually "greener" than fixing something that already exists. Not buying one anytime soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainstreaM Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 When. Nissan is destroying the market with the Leaf. iMiev is currently in the lineup of offerings. Read an article a while back, can't remember where, but it was about Mitsubishi Motors putting a large percentage of their R&D into the electric car segment. Their concept cars also show this shift. All are either full electric or some variant of a hybrid. Kane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malykaii Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) The reason names get revived is to capitalize on things like nostalgia. Anyone who has heard of starion recalls the urban legend of engrish. Anyone actually recognizing the car knows it as a conquest tsi. From a marketing standpoint the name is suicide. Also, a new Starion would never draw interest to the old. That's backwards. The logic is that recognition of the original draws interest to the new. Edited December 10, 2014 by Malykaii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'm glad there are a bunch of these tree hugger cars, keeps gas prices down even though it's not actually "greener" than fixing something that already exists. Not buying one anytime soon... What's nice is here in Georgia, if you lease a Nissan Leaf for two years, you actually make money from the tax credits and such. Basically, it works out to where it pretty much pays for your car for those two years. That, and cost of electricity is ~$550/year. I'm pretty sure I've done that in just a month, driving a Miata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 square out the back end a little and any of these 3 is what a new mitsu starion should look like IMO.....but seeing as they are all high end cars i doubt mitsu would have the balls or intelligence to copy the design and make it affordable, fast, and well built http://fourtitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/profiles-compared-960x843.jpg I like each of these...but they're no where close to being able to be merged with the Starion badge IMO. I could see any of these as nice candidates for a rebirth of the 3000GT though. To me, it's the body design that's the most distinctive, memorable, and noteworthy feature of the car. To the general public, the Starion body design was/is known for its lines and angularity. To the Starquest community, I think items like the flared fenders, the deep dish offset wheels, and the B-Pillar gap between windows all lend themselves to what makes the Starion such a looker in the first place. Just my 2.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 unfortunately curves are in and sharp angles have been out for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 unfortunately curves are in and sharp angles have been out for a long time Especially when you try to consider aerodynamics. Pop up headlights are like parachutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) unfortunately curves are in and sharp angles have been out for a long timeEspecially when you try to consider aerodynamics. Pop up headlights are like parachutes. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying none of the cars suggested convey/represent the Starion badge very well. But I still say any of those three would be a terrific 3000GT renewal. However I believe it would be possible to renew the car with a contemporary take on the classic look. Ford has done it with the Mustang for decades for example. I'm not saying it's definitive, but I think it could be done and sell well. Edited December 10, 2014 by NikoFab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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