TSiGuy17 Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 What do you do when this is all of the spark plug that comes out?? http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j457/Bryan_Causey/227.jpg Thanks for any help Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiGuy17 Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 P.S.. Already tried soaking them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg_43 Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I assume you have one of the lovely ford V8's with the angled hole for the plugs. That's such a joy to tune up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiGuy17 Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Yeah, the 5.4L... wt.... am I supposed to do about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jszucs Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 depending on how deep (cant see pic at work) I had luck putting a set of needle nose plyers inside and turning with a screwdriver though the handle. hope nothing falls inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turborusty Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) I don't understand....the threadedpart came out, right? So that part slipped off over the rest, that's still stuck in the head? Vise-Grips if you can get them clamped on. Turborusty Edited July 22, 2011 by Turborusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiGuy17 Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I don't understand....the threadedpart came out, right? And it's not a diesel? Turborusty Right, the threaded sleeve part came out.. The inside portion of the spark plug is still in there http://www.auto-facts.org/images/2004-ford-150-spark-plugs-21293724.jpg -Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turborusty Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) Stupdest design ever. Prime example of why I hate Fords so vehemently! Here ya go http://workshop.search-autoparts.com/_Removal-of-Ford-54-Broken-Spark-Plugs/blog/432787/31710.html http://mechdb.com/index.php/Ford_5.4_broken_spark_plug_removal http://www.pten.com/print/Professional-Tool-and-Equipment-News/Product-Spotlight--Specialty-Tools/1$1326 http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIS0/65600.oap?ck=Search_N0869_-1_-1&&pt=N0869&ppt=C0150 http://www.briskracing.com/product.php?productid=58 I'd use the last one....as she appears to have no pants on. That'll work better for me. Turborusty Edited July 22, 2011 by Turborusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 snap on makes a kit to remove the broken plug one of these kits is the only way you will get them out with out removing the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komeuppance Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Ha, when they make a special tool for this... you know it's bad. Looks like that's what you gotta do. Here's what maybe should have been done first:The Ford TSB has been changed alot from its original release- It now says you must start with a cold engine, meaning the vehicle must sit for at least 8 hours. They ask that you loosen the plugs 1/8 of a turn and then put several teaspoons of Motocraft Carb and carbon cleaner down the hole and wait at least 45 minutes for the carb cleaner to wick down the threads and loosen the carbon. You should use a torque wrench and not exceed 37 ft lbs break away torque. If it exceeds 37 ft lbs, they ask that you put more carb cleaner down the hole and wait for the carbon to dissolve. On the install, they recommend using anti sieze on the motor seat area of the plug. I have done 15 vehicles so far using this method and have not broken any plugs Fix it, and then sell it... lol... -Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komeuppance Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 http://www.denlorstools.com/home/dt1/page_17932_520/lisle_ford_broken_spark_plug_remover_lis_65600_alt.html$70 for that ish. -Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig87 Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 gravy job with the tool as long as you broke one of the front 4. the trick is aerokroil spray and use an impact to get them out. not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassispuke Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) gravy job with the tool as long as you broke one of the front 4. the trick is aerokroil spray and use an impact to get them out. not a big deal.paid 50k for my 06 f250 4x4 diesal lariat back in early o5 and i have asked my self y ever since. hince y only 50k miles on it to this day. two turbos. radiator, front suspencion recall emissions recall and even a coolant leak that they blamed on it sittin for long periods of time lol. never again, Edited July 22, 2011 by chassispuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig87 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 maybe you should have bought a duramax. So you could have replaced two turbos a radiator, a few emissions recall an inferior suspension. and to top it off a set of injectors that most dealers wont replace under warranty. But you would have got the best trans, alllison makes a great trans. oh dont forget the window regulators. you would have bought at least 2 by now. It has been proven in many fleets many times over that that "horrible crap motor" the 6.0 when taken care of is great. but that means quality fuel to keep the egr clean. You will never have a problem when using motorcraft certane boost. And keep the coolent clean "ford gold coolent" so the egr and oil coolers dont get to hot.many people hate the 6.0 untill they start maintaining it a quit using s*** vatozone parts and filters. BAck to the whole three valve issue the borken spark plug is a crappy design but you rarely see someone that goes into knowing what they are doing break one. sorry to the op but it wasnt broke till you broke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfried Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Like stated, Snap-On (and Ford) make a tool for this...it is about the only way you'll et it out without taking the head off...Just wait until #4 blows out the hole, too...they make a tool for that, as well...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yeah I have done these tune-ups before and they are a complete pain in the a**. Has to be the worst idea for a spark plug design in the world. Like stated earlier there is a special tool to do this a little easier. I purchased it from the snap-on tool truck after I broke a plug and it fell down into the cylinder. Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project83 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 I had that happen to me to... '05 Expedition, we had them take it to a Ford dealer. Definitely not a good plug design, at least with the older modulars they just pop the plug out and you can buy a good kit to fix it. All manufacturers have problems like this though seems like every newer car i research has something expensive that more than likely not If it happens but When. Plugs, wiring harnesses, oil pumps... pick your poison regular maintenance is key and not what the manufacture says, 100,000 miles on plugs yeah right not on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 it seems that for the last 15-20 years ford has decide'd NOT to use any of their better idea's take the 4.0 v6 over head cam $900 worth of timeing chains and tentioners ,, one for each head,, and the one for left head is on the rear of the engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hmm so My 06 F250 5.4 triton with 66k on the clock.... I should attempt to replace the plugs? Now instead of the recommended interval? Dad PS, I also have that dreaded TBC fault that is not covered by my extended warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project83 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hmm so My 06 F250 5.4 triton with 66k on the clock.... I should attempt to replace the plugs? Now instead of the recommended interval? Dad PS, I also have that dreaded TBC fault that is not covered by my extended warranty. 3/4 and 1 tons are easier to do the plugs in than 1/2 tons at least. Pull all the COP's off, blow out the holes with air, then spray some PB blaster/WD40/Liquid Wrench/whatever else does the same thing down the holes and let it sit over night... then good luck. Worst tune up i ever did was a 2000 f150 with a 5.4l, and factory propane injection, 8 hours of cursing, then another hour the next morning because a COP turned out to be bad, at least it was one of the front ones. I can knock out a normal 5.4l 1/2 ton in an hour and a half with no problems but that propane injection was crazy to deal with secondary fuel rails, control unit... gah just thinking about it irritates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierquest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) maybe you should have bought a duramax. So you could have replaced two turbos a radiator, a few emissions recall an inferior suspension. and to top it off a set of injectors that most dealers wont replace under warranty. But you would have got the best trans, alllison makes a great trans. oh dont forget the window regulators. you would have bought at least 2 by now. It has been proven in many fleets many times over that that "horrible crap motor" the 6.0 when taken care of is great. but that means quality fuel to keep the egr clean. You will never have a problem when using motorcraft certane boost. And keep the coolent clean "ford gold coolent" so the egr and oil coolers dont get to hot.many people hate the 6.0 untill they start maintaining it a quit using s*** vatozone parts and filters. BAck to the whole three valve issue the borken spark plug is a crappy design but you rarely see someone that goes into knowing what they are doing break one. sorry to the op but it wasnt broke till you broke it. I bought a cummins simply because they looked much easier to work on and I'm very happy with the engine. A pre EGR dpf cummins that is. Edited July 25, 2011 by Hoosierquest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Sure glad my 4.6 is a 2 valve. All I have to worry about is the spark plug spitting out of the head while driving. It's happened once. I got lucky, and was able to re-torque it back in without it coming back out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Sure glad my 4.6 is a 2 valve. All I have to worry about is the spark plug spitting out of the head while driving. It's happened once. I got lucky, and was able to re-torque it back in without it coming back out. lol that reminds me on the way to get marry'd my old 55 ford spit out a plug so it's not a new thing for fords to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 lol that reminds me on the way to get marry'd my old 55 ford spit out a plug so it's not a new thing for fords to do Yep our old '66 Thunderbird's 390 liked to loosen plugs up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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