Boosted_One Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Man it is sweet!  8) I can't wait to get the T4 on now!  ;D Here's some pics before I send it out for my head port to flange matching  and cermaic coating. Me likes!  ;D http://a3.cpimg.com/image/5D/66/19549533-a60d-02000180-.jpg http://a4.cpimg.com/image/5E/66/19549534-03c6-02000180-.jpg The collector is real smooth. You can run your finger around in it and it is completely smooth and radiused. The external WG flange is in a nice spot to run the dump tube also IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateLurker Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Pix, uh...YEAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboTSI Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 yes PICS please!! turboTSI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestpa Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 dude I cant wait to see what you have when you get this all together. Look out Chip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_C. Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 That thing is total sweetness! So the WG goes to the flange, and the dump tube meets up with the exhaust further down the pipe? I'd like to see pics of it when you get it all together too. With your WG & dump tube set-up. Hey, that big bar goes down to the motor mount for more support? That is how I have mine done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted June 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 That thing is total sweetness! So the WG goes to the flange, and the dump tube meets up with the exhaust further down the pipe? I'd like to see pics of it when you get it all together too. With your WG & dump tube set-up. Hey, that big bar goes down to the motor mount for more support? That is how I have mine done. That big brace goes somewhere, I just haven't figured that out yet.. LOL! THe WG dump tube is going run down under the car. It won't be hooked into the downpipe or exhaust. This will decrease lag a little too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 NICE!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 i want to see pics after the coating is done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where are you sending it to for the coatings! i strongly reccommend www.swaintech.com http://www.swaintech.com/header.html#price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted June 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 I got a hookup local here. they do a lot of ceramic coating and powder coating. $100 to cermaic coat the header $40 to powdercoat my valvecover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_C. Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 I gotcha'. The dump tube is in & of itself to the end of it. That is the race style. Are you taking it all the way to right behind the front tire? That would be sweet. Only people in the know will know what it is! That bracket looks to me to be just like mine that I made to support the heavy stock assembly. It goes down to the stuc where the little stock heatshield used to bolt up to. The stud that sticks out at an angle, that comes from the heavy metal bracket that shrouds the motor mount. That is the perfect place to support the weight of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Mike, the bracket attaches to the motor on the upper block-to-motor mount bolt. The part with the 30* bend goes on the block side. With the 2 brackets working together you should be able to support a 1000 pound turbo The idea was to minimize vibrations on the headder, vibration is the main cause of cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted June 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 I just dropped the header off by my machinist. Both guys said multiple times "This guy did a really good job!" He looked over the header and said "this is one nice header". Made comment to the quality welds and the braces used and how that was a really good idea. So now it's getting ported to match my head ports as my head ports are quite larger than stock now. Then off to get ceramic coated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88TSI_Rob Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Just looking at that header makes me want to learn how to weld! ;D That is some awesome work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpedTSI....... Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 ok Mike, whats the $ damage???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted June 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 I paid $600 and that included shipping and a used HKS 35mm WG. I think the header is $400 but I don't remember. I've been paying Chad off over the last 4 months or so. It never dented my pocketbook that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89tsi20g Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 ;D yea those headers look awesome, Chad was doing a group buy $475.00, i have to send mine out too to be coated, here is mine: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/conquest89/manifold/ , Rob NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpedTSI....... Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Hmmmmmmm..................good luck with that bracket......I had the same bracket and it cracked twice.........lotta vibration........header looks good tho...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted June 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 I got a urethane engine mount on the drivers side and full urethane all the way back. A lot less vibration at the motor than stock. It'll be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplee Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Look out Chip... look out chip hell, look out neil. I've already be surpassed, and I don't have any plans beyond tweaking for a while yet so I'll have to be happy where I am. What a day in starquest world where a guy with near 300whp has to settle in to some mediocre position in the ranks. I love it. That thing will surely be a manned rocket. Not so patiently waiting Mike. Can't wait to see some big big numbers man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_C. Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Vibration should have no effect on that bracket. It goes to the top side of the mount. the only way cracking would happen, is if it went to the bottom side of the rubber. The poly mounts will vibrate much worse than stock, so I'm not sure what you meant Mike? There will be less overall engine movement in the bay, so maybe that is what you mean? That will help things to not crack as bad, but bolts tend to come loose easier too. Yeah, that is one mean header. Is your DP stainless? A stainless DP would work very well with that header. I guess you haven't made the custom DP yet though. I'd go stainless, 3" mandrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backslider Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 I feel as if I may be the last man standing running mitsu turbos. I, I, I feel so alone :[ I want a garrett :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Vibration should have no effect on that bracket. It goes to the top side of the mount. the only way cracking would happen, is if it went to the bottom side of the rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted June 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Vibration should have no effect on that bracket. It goes to the top side of the mount. the only way cracking would happen, is if it went to the bottom side of the rubber. The poly mounts will vibrate much worse than stock, so I'm not sure what you meant Mike? There will be less overall engine movement  in the bay, so maybe that is what you mean? That will help things to not crack as bad, but bolts tend to come loose easier too. Yeah, that is one mean header. Is your DP stainless? A stainless DP would work very well with that header. I guess you haven't made the custom DP yet though. I'd go stainless, 3" mandrel. My poly mounts are a lot more stable on the motor. Much less side to side movement. That's what I was getting at. I will be going with a SS downpipe. Haven't made it yet, gotta go down the road and get my welder buddy to help me out with that end. It'll be stainless. JC Whitney has some nice SS manderal bends. My motor remains to be proven still. Had I not shattered that piston I would still have what I had last year. But I got "bent" and got rid of what I thought are problem areas. Time will tell. I want to run lower boost and get some decent power. No more pipedreams of 28 psi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Hmmmmmmm..................good luck with that bracket......I had the same bracket and it cracked twice.........lotta vibration........header looks good tho...... Well if you have the bracket mounted where Tim says and it is still fatigue cracking, then yes those headers sure do vibrate a lot!! Only solution is to go with a different material and heavier bracket of course. But I'd rather the bracket be fatiguing over the header. kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Vibration on the runner welds should be ZERO. there are 2 support brackets, one between the turbo flange and head flange, the other between the turbo flange and the block. there is no weight on the runners, it is all supported by the brackets. Also I used stainless bracketry, stronger than steel and thus less prone to fatique. Wven if the motor moves due to warn out mounts, the bracketry is all attached to the motor itself. Mike, that HKS WG is 40 MM, it should be able to support the biggest of T-4's. I ran my T-4 to 20 PSI, rock solid stable boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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