MontyTSI Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 sometimes the end tank design has to be compromised when fitament issues come into play. Im guessing your intake air temps will tell the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted August 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 sometimes the end tank design has to be compromised when fitament issues come into play. Im guessing your intake air temps will tell the whole story. I am almost certain my intake air temps will be below ambient temps. The only 2 reasons I do not like the I.C. that has top to bottom flow is because of fitment issues and running the pipes like AJ said, and personally I don't think it will be that drastic of a difference in performance between the two from what I have read and heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19cQuest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I'm running the same exact intercooler http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/missubabe/Conquest20091.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I am almost certain my intake air temps will be below ambient temps. The only 2 reasons I do not like the I.C. that has top to bottom flow is because of fitment issues and running the pipes like AJ said, and personally I don't think it will be that drastic of a difference in performance between the two from what I have read and heard. Unless you are running an additional cooler like nitrous or CO2, there is no possible way you can get you intake temps below ambient! How do you expect the ambient air to remove heat from the heated compressed air to a temp lower than ambient? :roll: I think a more realistic idea would be to shoot for 10% - 20% above ambient... at best. Don't forget, chrome don't get you home. Meaning just because it looks good and its cheap doesn't mean its going to work the best. You can get a top to bottom I/C made so that the intake and exhaust are on opposite sides. It woul look like the one in the picture with one of the end tanks reversed. That would be a great working I/C and not too difficult to mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 I personally think end tanks like 19Cquest's work best for our car because of the airdam and chassis design. Now air also blows on the inlet and outlet pipes and we already have the cutouts to route the plumbing below the headlights. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTI5MTE2NjZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpghttp://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTI4NTQ2MTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 This will get you below ambient temps when yah load the tank up with ice...http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/dscn0743.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19cQuest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 I personally think end tanks like 19Cquest's work best for our car because of the airdam and chassis design. Now air also blows on the inlet and outlet pipes and we already have the cutouts to route the plumbing below the headlights. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTI5MTE2NjZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpghttp://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTI4NTQ2MTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg That's basically what mine will look like but I'm doing the Artinist mod on the bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted August 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Yes I do plan on runing a c02 sprayer or nitrous probably the c02 becuase it is cheaper to refill but I am pretty sure the first intercooler I ad chosen will work just fine. Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemo Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 I have been running a similiar intercooler up to 20 psi and have yet to see tempatures over 115 deg they usually stay about 107 to 110 on 90 deg days. I know people running spearco coolers with spearco tanks not running any cooler than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 I have been running a similiar intercooler up to 20 psi and have yet to see tempatures over 115 deg they usually stay about 107 to 110 on 90 deg days. I know people running spearco coolers with spearco tanks not running any cooler than that. That's true but if i'm not mistaken the spearco you are talking about is a bit smaller too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemo Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 That's true but if i'm not mistaken the spearco you are talking about is a bit smaller too. Thats true but the point is you would be hard pressed to get cooler temps without spraying the intercooler with something. The temps I am talking about are on 95* days so so temps at the manifold 15* above ambient is pretty good for a $800 intercooler and great fro a $250 intercooler :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 scott, are you going to come down to jimmy's meet and show us your work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 You have got a big point there scott I am still sticking with my original choice and getting the 24x12x3 XO2 racing one. Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemo Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hey AJ I was looking for that info.. what is the date for Jimmy's next meet and the DSM race at Reynolds? I want to have the car tuned so I can run it but if not I will still be driving it to jimmy's! I was suppose to have dynoed and tuned on Monday but the dyno was down :cry: had to reschedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonboyb Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'm assuming the Spearco in question is mine My highest datalogged air temp so far is 107 when I was running a 12a balls out. Since I installed the S16G I haven't seen anything above the 103 to 105 mark, but I'm running low boost (12 psi) till I have time to clear up my timing issue. If I let the car sit running for extended periods of time then do a quick full boost run, I get a slightly higher max temp from heat soaking the IC and lines, but it's usually only a couple degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 That be the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemo Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Yea I was picking on you jon :wink: but not intentionally, anyway after talking to you yesterday I checked a few datalogs and most of mine show a range with 95* being the min and 109* being the max so better than I had thought. In looking the 109 is after hard pulls @ 18 psi through all gears! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 just ordered my intercooler two days ago... it's supposed to be here on wednesday kyle, time to order yours! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted September 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 just ordered my intercooler two days ago... it's supposed to be here on wednesday kyle, time to order yours! :wink: Yeah I still have to get this turbo installed then the mpi then worry about the intercooler LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdrew1 Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have a question... How does that Bellsouth phone work into the motor? Interesting. Sweet phone! :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted September 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I have a question... How does that Bellsouth phone work into the motor? Interesting. Sweet phone! :twisted: I dont see anything about a phone :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I had to cut into my subframe ends and bumper brakets to make it fit where I want. Its a 30x12x3 and you only see a little end tank but much of the cooler is hidden behind the bumper. You guys datalogging your temps, are your bumpers stock or cut away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyTSI Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I have a question... How does that Bellsouth phone work into the motor? Interesting. Sweet phone! :twisted: wow what a waste of one of your first 10 posts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I have a question... How does that Bellsouth phone work into the motor? Interesting. Sweet phone! :twisted: wow what a waste of one of your first 20 posts.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/starquest32/funny/JesseTokes.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad2Rass Posted September 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 I had to cut into my subframe ends and bumper brakets to make it fit where I want. Its a 30x12x3 and you only see a little end tank but much of the cooler is hidden behind the bumper. You guys datalogging your temps, are your bumpers stock or cut away? Their bumpers are not cut out at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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