Guest Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man VW is in DEEP, DEEP FECAL MATTER! They have been caught cheating emissions world wide! The cliff notes version, there is no such thing as "clean diesel". Simply they installed an emissions software that only works when the car is being tested! The rest of the time its running like any other older diesel! Chugging black soot where ever it goes! http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadey Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Gonna be interesting to see the fines and if they are aloud to keep sales in the us gonna be huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man, what is gonna happen to all them diesel VW's? I have always wantes one! Is this the best time to buy one? Will they be dirt cheap? Will auctions become flooded with VW diesels? Its gonna be interesting to see. What will they do with all them brand new diesels? Auctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87redcat Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 just wanna know why they (diesels) can get upwards of 75 MPG in Europe and only 35 here in the States??? emissions are a scam IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malykaii Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 When I was in Ireland last, the average car displaces a litre. That's your answer. We went to the rental car place and the guy gave us a .7 litre car. We had to upgrade to midsize to just get a 1.0 diesel, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87redcat Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Knew there was something different...thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) just wanna know why they (diesels) can get upwards of 75 MPG in Europe and only 35 here in the States??? emissions are a scam IMO... In a sense, yes. But keep in mind, pollution is not what it used to be. So it is working. But, POLITICANS keep passing stricter and stricter emission laws without knowing one damn thing about how things actually work. In other words they are passings emission laws for which technology has not been invented yet. Take California for example, strictest diesel emissions in the country. The result, all diesel equipment has become unreliable and extremely expensive to operate. All diesel trucks, generator, tractors etc are suppsoed to be equipped with diesel emissions and by 2020 all non emissions diesels are supposed to be phased out completely! But the diesel emissions technology has not caught up to the laws requirements. And all diesel trucks have become completely unreliable. I know companies replacing their entire diesel fleets for gasoline or propane because the diesel emissions is crazy expensive to maintain. Edited September 24, 2015 by louswheel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potamus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 The 09-15 TDI's are already very expensive to maintain the updates that Vw is going to do on those cars is going to kill the reliability of the very expensive emissions components, kill the fuel economy and kill the power. We are advising customers that have those cars to not go to the dealer because they will just reflash your ecu and not give you an option. This scandal will kill diesel passenger cars in the US there will be no more produced. Of the cars Vw sells in the US i'de bet more than half are TDI's, it would not surprise me it they pull out of the U.S. market completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 The 09-15 TDI's are already very expensive to maintain the updates that Vw is going to do on those cars is going to kill the reliability of the very expensive emissions components, kill the fuel economy and kill the power. We are advising customers that have those cars to not go to the dealer because they will just reflash your ecu and not give you an option. This scandal will kill diesel passenger cars in the US there will be no more produced. Of the cars Vw sells in the US i'de bet more than half are TDI's, it would not surprise me it they pull out of the U.S. market completely. This is what has happened in California to diesel trucks. Brand new rigs, medium duty trucks and tractors have especially been affected this way. New commercial diesel trucks have no power, waste more fuel and are unreliable. I know guys who have paid $140 thousand dollars for new trucks and the damn things keep breaking down. One of my customers with new Hino and Ford medium duty trucks keep having to go in for emissions related problems. Each and every time its thousands of dollars because warranty dont cover crap. Repo guy I know with a 2014 Ford F550 just spent $20 thousand bucks replacing diesel emissions and he was out of work 2 full weeks! These laws are gonna bankrupt a lot of companies and independant operators. As for diesel passenger cars, VW just screwed it up for the whole market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntercooledFlatty Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 The 09-15 TDI's are already very expensive to maintain the updates that Vw is going to do on those cars is going to kill the reliability of the very expensive emissions components, kill the fuel economy and kill the power. We are advising customers that have those cars to not go to the dealer because they will just reflash your ecu and not give you an option. This scandal will kill diesel passenger cars in the US there will be no more produced. Of the cars Vw sells in the US i'de bet more than half are TDI's, it would not surprise me it they pull out of the U.S. market completely. i love the TDI's....... lolZZZ pulling out don't always work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbruneaux Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It was so egregious nobody noticed anything, emissions are rediculous and meaningless. They are in deep dodo with the greenies and feds. I don't care what the emissions are i have known people getting 50+ mpg. Isn't that what the consumers wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_insanity Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 What got them caught anyways? I figure if they were smart enough to hide it in there in the first place, it took someone pretty damned smart to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potamus Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 C.A.R.B (California Air Resources Board) is the one who caught them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 C.A.R.B (California Air Resources Board) is the one who caught them. Nope, it was the I.C.C.T. http://www.theicct.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 C.A.R.B (California Air Resources Board) is the one who caught them. of course! Had to be Cali! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creakyjoints Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 http://www.theicct.org/spotlight/use-nox-emissionsHeard today vw says only about 13,000 of the offending vehicles made it to the u.s.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 C.A.R.B (California Air Resources Board) is the one who caught them.Nope, it was the I.C.C.T. http://www.theicct.org/http://www.npr.org/2015/09/24/443053672/how-a-little-lab-in-west-virginia-caught-volkswagens-big-cheatno wv university caught it in a experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malykaii Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 ^Ithought it was my neighbor Jimmy that discovered it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarisman14 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Interesting. 13,000 in the US? That's pretty nuts as I heard 11 million was the magic number. My coworker owns one of them (Golf TDi) and is all up in arms about it--said that they did a test on a couple random BMW diesel SUVs and they failed the emissions test as well. I wonder if there's some sort of agreement with all the diesel automakers to skirt the regulations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOHO Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 And yet the ozone isn't gone and we all don't have cancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creakyjoints Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Well I was driving and may have misheard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 And yet the ozone isn't gone and we all don't have cancer! Take a look at a TV show or movie from the 70's filmed in LA or NYC and you can see the massive smog clouds that used to sit on top of the cities. Some emissions controls are a good thing but that's also the time when cars transitioned over to Fuel Injection and became more efficient. That said, I haven't run a cat in a Starion in over a decade and all I want to know is, where can I buy one of these inspection fooling systems for my car? LOL Vee Dub is in trouble. Their CEO fell on his sword and there's really no way to make these cars compliant without killing the power and pissing off all the owners. There will no doubt be a class action lawsuit and VW's days in the US market may be coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I drove through my local vw Dealership Tuesday, they had like 15 cars total now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malykaii Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/malykaii/Mobile%20Uploads/1001151501_zpssqstjqtx.jpg Good news for V.A.G. owners... Y'all might need a Diesel Exaust Fluid system. That, my friends, is the seal for the d.e.f. filter from an Isuzu diesel at work. Don't know about you, but if I had a VAG I sure would want one of those d.e.f. filter seals for my exaust pipe. Ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malykaii Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Oh no! So I accidentally spilled some glue on the bottom of that seal. So I quickly tried to wipe it off, but rushing caused me to drop it... On to my supervisor's chair?! Its stuck! I panicked, so I quickly pushad his chair back in, shut the lights off, and left the office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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