importwarrior Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 is there a post of someone using a dodge daytona brake booster?does anyone have information about that swap? i believe it was Professor Questthat posted the information. anyone have any info on this? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Is it an upgrade or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 the only difference i remember is that the outside diameter of the brake booster was smaller.the master cylinder mount were horizontal compared to our vertical mount. good for MPI or V8 Swap you have more room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 found this dont know what car it came from... http://projectzerog....f61ecd14589e3f9 http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d182/Professor-Quest123/Catalog%201/P1011391.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d182/Professor-Quest123/Catalog%201/P1011393.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d182/Professor-Quest123/Catalog%201/P1011425.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Cary Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Wouldnt a horizontal mount make things easier for getting an upgraded master cylinder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 the main reason i was asking.it could provide a lot more options for us. just need to get the measurements from a 3000GT brake booster.wonder if that would fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malykaii Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 If room is a concern, maybe hydroboost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) What about the Chase Bays Booster elim brake master cylinder? I've heard some good things about it but not fully at the point where I get why it works...http://www.chasebays.com/content/products/3535/main.jpg Edited February 20, 2015 by Fuze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Think about a car jack. A smaller bore on the master allows better braking power with more travel If we compare it to a jack, if you have a big cylinder on the jack, it's harder to jack up the car, so you use a smaller one. Smaller takes more travel, but can apply more pressure with less effort because of the ratio. Of course if you are running something big like 2 pot calipers all way around or 4 pot front, 2 rear, a smaller bore master wouldn't have enough fluid to press it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Anyone have any idea what car that booster came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 hmmmhttp://www.datsport.com/products/images/brake-booster-master-small.gifhttp://www.datsport.com/hydraulic-brake-booster-master-cylinder78.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Datsun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Datsun?looks to be a aftermarket unit to add a booster to the datsun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Think about a car jack.A smaller bore on the master allows better braking power with more travel If we compare it to a jack, if you have a big cylinder on the jack, it's harder to jack up the car, so you use a smaller one. Smaller takes more travel, but can apply more pressure with less effort because of the ratio.Of course if you are running something big like 2 pot calipers all way around or 4 pot front, 2 rear, a smaller bore master wouldn't have enough fluid to press it all Makes sense, I remember that conversation when I was researching it. Seems like a no-brainer if the booster can be eliminated and still have excellent braking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laodicea Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 A 1980 Dodge Challenger booster will bolt right into place and master will bolt right on as well. 2" smaller diameter. I used one for two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thanks exactly what i was looking for. have any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntercooledFlatty Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 generic pic ?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reman-A-1-Cardone-Vacuum-Power-Brake-Booster-w-o-Master-Cylinder-fits-19-/281354849433?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1980|Model%3AChallenger&hash=item41820e4c99&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laodicea Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I never took pics of it...but it looks just like the one Importwarrior posted up above. and Intercooled Flatty posted Edited February 26, 2015 by Laodicea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxzillian Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 What about the Chase Bays Booster elim brake master cylinder?I've heard some good things about it but not fully at the point where I get why it works...http://www.chasebays.com/content/products/3535/main.jpg I wouldn't use anything like that just for the matter that it's a single piston master cylinder. If the front or rear brakes develope a major leak, you'll end up losing all brakes. The bracket may be fine, but that master cylinder belongs on a clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I wouldn't use anything like that just for the matter that it's a single piston master cylinder. If the front or rear brakes develope a major leak, you'll end up losing all brakes. The bracket may be fine, but that master cylinder belongs on a clutch. The point is, that size master is what makes the setup functional. It's a performance part, so like any performance part you have to stay on top of your car's maintenance. From experience I think the stock master is far more likely to fail and cause you to lose your brakes than the likelihood of a huge leak at a caliper, I've had at least 3 masters go bad. I've never used the CB part though so I can't say much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxzillian Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 The point is, that size master is what makes the setup functional. It's a performance part, so like any performance part you have to stay on top of your car's maintenance. From experience I think the stock master is far more likely to fail and cause you to lose your brakes than the likelihood of a huge leak at a caliper, I've had at least 3 masters go bad. I've never used the CB part though so I can't say much more. Yeah, I get the point... just throwing out a word of caution. There's a reason cars don't use single piston setups anymore and most racing organizations won't even let the master cylinders share the same reservoir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yeah, I get the point... just throwing out a word of caution. There's a reason cars don't use single piston setups anymore and most racing organizations won't even let the master cylinders share the same reservoir.Sure, good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I always seen the dual pistons as a internal proportioning valve of a sort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) dual piston masters use one part as the frt brakes and the other as the rear , this is so if one piston leaks it still has another fully functional brake piston , altho if eather frt or rear brakes fail to function properly the result is reduced braking ability it is a safty design feature not for ability to stop you may find cars that have set for 5-10 years and still have a full brake petal,, but one time bleeding the brake system and the master is shot,,this is because of the cyl bore builds up crud and trash over time and sence the piston does not travel the entire bore length it has no effect on the piston seals,,but once the piston travels the entire cyl length such as when bleeding the brakes , the seal may be damaged by the crud built up on the bottom of the cyl bore and ,make it no longer able to make a seal, thus unable to make pressure brake petal height is controlled mainly by the rear system piston,, the frt brake piston is mounted on a heavy spring , you will never have a full brake petal stroke if the rear brakes are not air free and properly adjusted good brakes but low petal is a sign of improperly adjusted rear brake system Edited February 27, 2015 by Shelby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twojayzeestarion Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I rember reading on there somewhere a mustang one will bolt up iirc it was tiny think I saw it in engine sappers I'll try to find a link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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