Killtodie Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 My auto seatbelt on the passenger side is getting very, very slow. It now gets stuck and does not move. How do I get to the motor to lubricate it? Do I have to remove like the carpet and roof trim to get to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliber308 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 When it is cold out they sometimes run real slow.Try spraying some lubricant on the track and work the belt back and forth,it might help. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) It's actually a lot more simple than what everyone will make it out to be. To do it right and proper, you'll want to remove the whole assembly ( motor and tape ) Start by removing the A-pillar trim. You'll also want to remove the backseat, and the rear side interior panels. You'll see the motor behind some seal tar type plastic. Attached to it is the long tape assembly. CAREFULLY move your headliner back along the door frame edges and you'll see where that bolts to the car, undo those screws/bolts down the A-pillar and remove the assembly. Note: The tape travels down into the bottom of the door frame, but it doesn't attach to anything there. It just literally slides out. From there you can unbolt the tape guide from the actual seatbelt motor. I'd recommend both taking a look at the motor ( regreasing it and testing it ) and the tape itself - it's possible that after years of use the holes for the teeth have just split open. If at any point you've forced the seatbelt into open/close position when it stuck, chances are the tape ripped and it will be needing to be replaced - at least that was my case. When reassembling, use lithium grease to grease the tracks. Avoid the weatherstripping. That ish is petroleum based. Hard lesson learned on my end Take your time and be careful Edited December 9, 2010 by Fanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killtodie Posted December 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 When it is cold out they sometimes run real slow.Try spraying some lubricant on the track and work the belt back and forth,it might help. Bill I remember reading something about not lubricating that plastic track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScooterDude92 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 get yourself some foaming motorcycle chainlube in a can...comes with a straw, i put it in mine and the take off like a bat out of hell now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrngwae Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 dosent chain and cable lube turn into tar????? try some dry moly lube. that way you dont get more junk in that track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighterpilot Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I use teflon spray with the hollow tube. It dries and doesn't hold any dirt. For What It's Worth KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killtodie Posted December 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Looks like I'm getting different advice. I plan on using Synthetic Grease I got lying around. Are people recommending me to lubricate the plastic chain? I'm sure I read some warning label saying to not lubricate it. I dont mind getting to the motor, just want to know how involved that part is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I use teflon spray with the hollow tube. It dries and doesn't hold any dirt. For What It's Worth KENhmm in theroy we could use spray graphite, or silicon too right? as long as it drys dryLooks like I'm getting different advice. I plan on using Synthetic Grease I got lying around. Are people recommending me to lubricate the plastic chain? I'm sure I read some warning label saying to not lubricate it. I dont mind getting to the motor, just want to know how involved that part is.the fellow above makes sense, if you use any normal lub (aka liquidish) dirt will stick in it any wont you know it, all i had to do was read this thread when i was at work, and when i went to leave my damn driver seat belt wouldnt go back lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf87Conquest Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Being as the track sits inside the door...moisture will get in...doesn't matter how but it will get in, trust me. Lubricting the track will help, but you need a lubricant that does NOT attract or is affected by moisture. The only one I can think of that fits the bill is spray graphite, kinda expensive, around 9 bucks a 16 oz can. Home centers and auto parts stores should have it. It works well, still working when other kinds need a re-aplication. As for the belt motor...unless you've worked on small DC motors before, don't do anything...take it to a motor repair shop for testing/repairs. The most common part replacement in these motors is the comuntator brushes. If you've worked on these motors before, then you know how to take them apart and test properly. Make sure when you reinstall the motor, you get the wires back on the proper connection...polarity is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBII Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 White lithium grease. My seatbelts move back faster now than I can get in and out of the car. They beat me almost every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killtodie Posted December 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 alright, now I am really confused as to what I should lubricate. I was planning on lubing the chain/gearing on the motor, not its inside. I clearly remember reading a warning label on the car somewhere that says not to lubricate the plastic chain. So what should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I feel the pain of a slow seatbelt too. My drivers side easily takes 15-20 seconds bfore it fully retracts, rediculous. I read in the FSM it's supposed to take 2.5 seconds to fully retract back and forth. The passenger side is slow but not that bad. It's worse when it is cold outside like stated above. I'm with toadie I'dlike to know the best remedy for thisproblem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydogg Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 i did not lube, remove the plastic piece at the motor that the belt travels through and you see the problem, the old lube collects there like a clogged artery. cleaning that part worked for me. it's easy to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliber308 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Looks like I'm getting different advice. I plan on using Synthetic Grease I got lying around. Are people recommending me to lubricate the plastic chain? I'm sure I read some warning label saying to not lubricate it. I dont mind getting to the motor, just want to know how involved that part is. I've always used Lithium grease in a spray can without any problems. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killtodie Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'm confused as to what you all spray it on? The plastic track or or the motor gearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I noticed on mine when I hold the seabelt up the motor moves faster.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag-O-Chips Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 dosent chain and cable lube turn into tar????? try some dry moly lube. that way you dont get more junk in that track. lol Spline grease Crown Part # XXXXXX-XXX You know what I'm talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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