Pr4mnceMan Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well, tried to fire her off last night open manifold and it started right up just like it was already warmed up!! Â The an fitting I've been waiting on is supposed to be here today, so I'll be putting on the turbo tonight and hopefully going for a test drive. Â Thats if it doesn't take too long to get a base map in there for part throttle driving. Â I do have a problem though....the gas gauge and volt gauge is not working...did those for some weird reason go though the computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TainterRacing Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 No they dont go threw the ecu at all....... they are in the other wireing harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well, wonder what in the hell happened? Did not mess with the alt wires or fuel gauge wire. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_85stariones Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I do have a problem though....the gas gauge and volt gauge is not working.. Aren't those two gauges side-by-side -- on top and bottom of each other? Double-check ground wires behind gauge cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Well, fitting came in but look how far below the timing cover hole is compared to where the 90* sits! Â > http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/195754/1478077IMG0746.JPG http://hsvracing.com/phpBB2/files/img_0747_866.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 It should still drain as long as the return is not the highest point. What type of ingnition are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 It should still drain as long as the return is not the highest point. Â What type of ingnition are you running? It is the highest point, thats the problem. And ignition...I'm running SDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I was reffering to the whole system. The oil supply at the top of the turbo is still the highest point in the whole system right. Your other alternative is to tap the oil pan. I didn't realize SDS controled ignition too, I thought it was just a fuel controler. Do they supply their own coils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I'd personally recommend putting a drainback hole lower in the timng cover or in the oil pan. Mine used to look about like that (bottom of the turbo about even with the drain fitting) and it smoked way more than I like(new turbo). I welded a short piece of 5/8" tubing into the pan and it eliminated the smoking. If you do that, put the tube just as high as possible on the pan to keep it above the oil level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Isn't there a tube off the oil pan on the passenger side that was used with the Charcoal Canister emissions crap? That should work and save you from dropping the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted March 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Isn't there a tube off the oil pan on the passenger side that was used with the Charcoal Canister emissions crap? Â That should work and save you from dropping the pan. Thats the first thing I thought of when I had this problem, but had an extra oil pan laying around and that line comes in under the oil level. And yes SDS has their own full standalone w/ supplied coils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted March 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I'd personally recommend putting a drainback hole lower in the timng cover or in the oil pan. Â Mine used to look about like that (bottom of the turbo about even with the drain fitting) and it smoked way more than I like(new turbo). Â I welded a short piece of 5/8" tubing into the pan and it eliminated the smoking. Â If you do that, put the tube just as high as possible on the pan to keep it above the oil level. Were you able to pull it off w/o dropping the oil pan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitestarion Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I'd personally recommend putting a drainback hole lower in the timng cover or in the oil pan. Â Mine used to look about like that (bottom of the turbo about even with the drain fitting) and it smoked way more than I like(new turbo). Â I welded a short piece of 5/8" tubing into the pan and it eliminated the smoking. Â If you do that, put the tube just as high as possible on the pan to keep it above the oil level. I had the same problem last year. I had a brand new T3/T4 and my car would blow blue smoke when I would "hit it hard" in 1st gear and clear up as I ran through the gears. Then I noticed the turbo oil return didn't have a nice downward slope to the timing cover. It ran nearly horizontal(very small downward slope) for an inch or two. I fabricated a new oil return and the smoking problem went away. I assumed the oil was feeding into the turbo faster than it drain and would back up into the turbo seals. Pressure in, gravity out. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 that 90 degree AN has a pretty big radius. just get a straight AN for the hose and put the 90 on the turbo so the exit is exactly right under the housing like mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TainterRacing Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 You should be able to do it with the right fittings on there. http://www.t-racing.com/TRShop/images/DSC02958.jpg Oooppppssss thats not the modded stock one there....should still be able to be faily close tho to do it I think might have to get a diff fitting coming off the turbo to get the line as close to the turbo housing as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 tainter, i think your turbo is sitting higher than his, thats why you dont have the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 1_Bad_68 , i noticed you are running racing sparkplug wires. I just got a set of new MSD wires myself and couldn't find info on the wires you have on their site to see if they are EMI shielded. they may not be. I am not sure what SDS recommends but the electromotive units require EMI supression wires. i guess these aftermarket ECUS are not as well shielded as the factory units. might want to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 1_Bad_68: No, I had the engine out of the car being rebuilt. One of the reasons for the rebuild is that the previous owner of the motor drilled a hole in his oil pan while it was on the car. I don't recommend it at all after seeing the spall that ended up in the pan! Art- I had those wires until I went EDIS, they are EMI shielded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 After being on the road a full week heres some pics from today: http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499778IMG0771.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499780IMG0772.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499781IMG0773.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499783IMG0774.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499785IMG0776.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499787IMG0777.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499788IMG0778.JPG http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499790IMG0779.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Sweet! So, how's it feel/drive? Break 'em loose goin into 4th? ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I was reffering to the whole system. The oil supply at the top of the turbo is still the highest point in the whole system right. Your other alternative is to tap the oil pan. I didn't realize SDS controled ignition too, I thought it was just a fuel controler. Do they supply their own coils? I run a distributor and all my timing is also controlled via the SDS. My distributor is fixed so all it does is spin spark. The SDS controls all advance, retard and base timing. Your car 1_Bad_68 it looks really nice man! I like the FMIC too! I gotta say I am a little biased on black... black Starquests just look like there going 1000 miles an hour just parked there. Plus I got one! hehe ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_85stariones Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/189/189048/folders/198294/1499785IMG0776.JPG I like your 1962 Chevy C10. Back in high school, I drove a 1963 Chevy C10 Step-side long-bed with 292 cu in-line six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Truck needs a bunch of work, but only has 72K original miles. Normally it sits hidden behind my shop, but I had gone and picked up a bunch of yard tools and it just got left up there. More of an eye soar spot in the neighborhood. ;D Not breaking them loose going into 4th yet, but only on 10psi also. As long as its not raining in the morning I'll be on the dyno @ 9:30am and will be seeing how much boost I can run on pump. I'll post the graph as soon as I can. It might be a week or two before the vid is uploaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Truck needs a bunch of work, but only has 72K original miles. Normally it sits hidden behind my shop, but I had gone and picked up a bunch of yard tools and it just got left up there. More of an eye soar spot in the neighborhood. ;D Not breaking them loose going into 4th yet, but only on 10psi also. As long as its not raining in the morning I'll be on the dyno @ 9:30am and will be seeing how much boost I can run on pump. I'll post the graph as soon as I can. It might be a week or two before the vid is uploaded. 10 psi goes a long way on these T4's doesn't it? I running down to 10psi now and damn it pulls niiiiice! Hmmm 10 psi...295hp/350lb/ft I'm guessing... Good luck on the rollers! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turborusty Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'd say the neighbor's yard is the eyesore of the neighborhood! People can afford a beautiful house like that and can't pay some pimple-faced kid 15 bucks to mow the lawn? What's up with that? By the way, your car is SWEET!! Turborusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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