there's a 1 in 5 chance that Palin will be president if McCain is elected

[patra_is_here]

historically, 9 out of 46 presidents have died/been killed while in office.

McCain is the oldest presidential candidate ever

he's 2 years shy of the average lifespan for a healthy male. and he arguably has health problems.

 

her being president scares the heck out of me.

[jahjah]

historically, 9 out of 46 presidents have died/been killed while in office.

McCain is the oldest presidential candidate ever

he's 2 years shy of the average lifespan for a healthy male. and he arguably has health problems.

 

her being president scares the heck out of me.

 

Obama being pres scares the heck out of me.

 

someone'll probly shoot him!! people hate his butt!!

[Mazarin]

So, it's Biden - more of the same

 

OR

 

Palin - no eff'n idea what she's more of

[slydogg]

it really does'nt make a rats as-, you will all get up the morning after the election and go off to work, or school, or whatever else it is you do, just like we have always done. the blame game will continue. some of the blame goes to joe public for buying a house and two cars that he knows he can't pay for and gets pis-ed off because the government won't bail his sorry as- out. if that sounds like a rant i apoligize. i just think it's time we hold ourselves acountable for spending money that we don't have.

[Mazarin]

TRUTH

[blue89quest]

If McCain/Palin win, then McCain could die, and we end up with Palin and more of the same bipartisan politics. Probably with a look on her face similar to a small deer before being hit by a truck.

 

If Obama/Biden win, then Obama could end up becoming High Chancellor of the USA or something similar lol, but at least they will be qualified. Journalism degree imo does not qualify you to be vp, that makes the office into a farce.

 

Either way, i'm voting obama.

 

And either way, most of us won't notice as stated above. Unless I end up in WWIII then i will notice lol

Edited October 6, 2008 by blue89quest

[Turborusty]

So it seems I will have to pay the price for joe public being lured and/or conned into spending well beyond his means?

 

I guess I don't feel the accountability I should.

 

I have a conventional home loan with a decent interest rate and I don't want anyone to bail me out.

 

 

We own all 3 cars and could dang-near pay for the house if we needed to. I'm already paying a healthier chunk in tax, by being in an "above average" income bracket.

 

I'd rather think of myself as being in the "financially responsible" category.

 

That being said....I certainly don't want to live in a socialist state....and that's where Obama is taking us. Along with his close affiliations to admitted domestic terrorists, the Black Panthers and Louis Farrakhan, the Supreme Leader of the State of Islam....he purposely moved into the same neighborhood with Farrakhan and Bill Ayers.

 

I don't trust him one bit.

 

 

Turborusty

 

 

Turborusty

[lmwii]

If McCain/Palin win, then McCain could die, and we end up with Palin and more of the same bipartisan politics.

 

bipartisanship is generally considered to be a positive thing...are you sure you know what it means?

[blue89quest]

bipartisanship is generally considered to be a positive thing...are you sure you know what it means?

 

 

It is a good thing indeed, everyone working together, woohoo. It does have downsides. Like enabling one party to blame another for both parties faults. It is a bad thing when it completely inhibits any movement forward with anything. Sorry, i just usually think of it as enabling one party to blame another lol since thats all they do these days.

 

Condescending much?

Edited October 6, 2008 by blue89quest

[Turborusty]

Yup, it's a good thing.

 

Two sets of opinions, ideas, and input preferably consisting of cooperation, agreement, and compromise between the two.

 

And one side should do it's part to keep the other in check.....so as not to become too powerful.

 

 

Turborusty

[lmwii]

omg, dude, if you thought that was condescending, lol!

 

that was the revised, i'm-going-to-be-nicer version. i can't win for losing...

[blue89quest]

omg, dude, if you thought that was condescending, lol!

 

that was the revised, i'm-going-to-be-nicer version. i can't win for losing...

 

 

omg, dude, lol, sorry. Internet is hard to read for sarcasm ya know, lol. But yeah ur right, i am retarded about bipartisanship lol.

 

Don't worry I didn't care really, its just way more fun to provoke drama, it makes threads more interesting for all to a certain extent of course.

 

peace!

[indy_85stariones]

her being president scares the heck out of me.

 

The DEMS already control the House and the Senate.

 

The DEMS have had control of the state government of California for the past 20 years. All of us know how bad it is to live in California. Let the DEMS keep all of their social and environmental experiments there and prevent it from spreading to the rest of the country.

 

The DEMS controlling all three branches of the federal government SCARE the heck out of me.

Edited October 7, 2008 by indy_85stariones

[chiplee]

I didn't mean to drop out of the political threads. I finally closed on my house so I've been moving in and don't have internet there yet. Gets hooked up in two days though.

 

As for this thread. I could be reading too much into McCain's "palin" decision but it's not just that she'll be so close to the presidency. It's that he decided to put her there. His judgement is so severely called into question that I don't have to wait for her to be in office to be frightened. McCain scares me now too.

[vbrad511]

The DEMS already control the House and the Senate.

 

The DEMS have had control of the state government of California for the past 20 years. All of us know how bad it is to live in California. Let the DEMS keep all of their social and environmental experiments there and prevent it from spreading to the rest of the country.

 

The DEMS controlling all three branches of the federal government SCARE the heck out of me.

 

While it's true that Nancy Pelosi has been a BIG disappointment the dems do NOT have control. They have a slight majority, and not enough of one to overturn a Bush veto. I believe the idea was "why even try if W has promised to shoot down whatever we propose. And the remiaing repubs have been the most obstructionist group congress has ever had. Still in spite of that;

 

110th Congress Accomplishments

The 110th Congress has made remarkable progress for the American people. After years of inaction on critical issues, this Democratic Congress has begun to move America in a New Direction by supporting our military, preserve our planet, strengthening our economy, protecting our children and families, and restoring accountability to our nations government. As we move into 2008, we must build on these achievements and continue to advance policies that benefit all Americans.

ACCOMPLISHED

Largest veterans health care funding increase in history

First minimum wage increase in a decade

Tax cuts for 23 million middle-class families

Largest college aid expansion since the GI Bill in 1944

Securing our borders by adding 3,000 new border patrol agents and $1.2 billion for fence construction

A pay raise of 3.5% for our brave men and women in uniform

Passing the Wounded Warriors Act to clean up the scandal of inadequate care for our wounded soldiers

Providing Family Medical Leave for families wounded in combat

Protecting seniors access to their doctors

Innovation Agenda promoting 21st century jobs

First increase in fuel economy standards in 30 years

Implementation of 9/11 Commission recommendations to protect America from terrorism

Most sweeping lobby and ethics reform in a generation, hailed by reform groups as landmark reform and a sea of change

Vigorous Congressional oversight restored after six years, saving billions of taxpayer dollars and exposing corruption and incompetence

Improvements and explanation of Head Start preschool program

Aid to the Gulf Coast recovering from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita

VETOED BY PRESIDENT

Health care for 10 million children

Timetables to responsibly redeploy troops from Iraq

Expansion of life-saving medical research on stem cells

NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA

Guarantee our veterans receive all earned bonuses

Ensure childrens toys are safe and free from hazardous materials

Additional tax relief for military service members and their families

Small businesses guaranteed fair access to federal contracts

Incentives for small business innovation to compete globally

Stronger consumer protection for mortgages and mortgage lending practices

Address Chinas continued disregard for U.S. trade law

Improve benefits for workers laid off as a result of trade

Reform and strengthen the nations higher education programs

Reauthorize No Child Left Behind

Farm Bill that shifts priorities to family farmers, crop diversity, nutrition, and biofuels

[Shelby]

a good bit of that you could call cleaning up your own house amd the rest for the most part so far have been not much more then talk :biggrinumbrella1:

[UlrichWolf]

http://i27.tinypic.com/2u5bdon.jpg

 

Sorry, couldn't help it, LOL

 

Tim

 

EDIT: Democrats are funny.

 

http://www.myblogspan.com/images/blogs/1-2008/hilarious-hillary-nutcracker.jpg

Edited October 7, 2008 by UlrichWolf

[indy_85stariones]

VETOED BY PRESIDENT

Health care for 10 million children

Timetables to responsibly redeploy troops from Iraq

Expansion of life-saving medical research on stem cells

 

Health care for 10 million children

 

First of all, we already have State Children's Health Ins. Program (SCHIP),

which already covers 6.6 million children.

http://www.cms.hhs.gov/home/schip.asp

 

Second of all, Bush asked to increase funding from $5 billion to $6 billion per year -- $30 billion over 5 years. The bill requested $12 billion per year -- $60 billion over 5 years.

 

Bush said that expanding the program would enlarge the role of the federal government at the expense of private insurance.

 

I agree with Bush wholeheartedly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7071801434.html

 

 

Timetables to responsibly redeploy troops from Iraq

 

When funds for our troops in Iraq were estimated to run out between JUN/JUL 2007, the DEMS introduced a bill to re-authorize funds providing that all troops were withdrawn by MAR 2008. That is by NO definition a responsible way to withdraw troops from Iraq.

 

Has anyone taken the time to realize the consequences if we withdraw our troops prematurely?

 

Once again, I agree with Bush wholeheartedly.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/03/sen...unds/index.html

 

 

Expansion of life-saving medical research on stem cells

 

There is already medical research being performed using stem cells. Stem cell research is not illegal. It is being funded by corporations and private investors. There is NO need for tax payer dollars to be spent on research.

 

Once again, I agree with Bush wholeheartedly!!!!!!

 

 

In summary, it is Bush who has been responsible in controlling federal tax spending -- vetoing the DEMS efforts to increase it.

[Guest]

So it seems I will have to pay the price for joe public being lured and/or conned into spending well beyond his means?

 

I guess I don't feel the accountability I should.

 

I have a conventional home loan with a decent interest rate and I don't want anyone to bail me out.

 

 

We own all 3 cars and could dang-near pay for the house if we needed to. I'm already paying a healthier chunk in tax, by being in an "above average" income bracket.

 

I'd rather think of myself as being in the "financially responsible" category.

 

That being said....I certainly don't want to live in a socialist state....and that's where Obama is taking us. Along with his close affiliations to admitted domestic terrorists, the Black Panthers and Louis Farrakhan, the Supreme Leader of the State of Islam....he purposely moved into the same neighborhood with Farrakhan and Bill Ayers.

 

I don't trust him one bit.

 

 

Turborusty

 

 

Turborusty

 

 

You know, my wife says the same thing, "I don't trust him." She says he's just waiting to become President of the US to shout out "Allah akbar!!" :hmm3grin2orange:

[Zack_Morris]

Wow...seriously. You actually agree with ANYTHING Bush has done? I'm shocked.

 

No I don't mean you agree with it all, but I DO feel that you need to look at the larger picture. Three "positive" things in your eyes IN NO WAY make this administration a good one. This has been one clusterbomb of retard after another. And If McCain is voted into office it will just continue. He is too old and senile to know better, she is too inexperienced to know better.

 

This is the man you want in office?

[indy_85stariones]

Wow...seriously. You actually agree with ANYTHING Bush has done? I'm shocked.

 

No I don't mean you agree with it all, but I DO feel that you need to look at the larger picture. Three "positive" things in your eyes IN NO WAY make this administration a good one.

 

 

Those three VETOes are a positive thing in my eyes. We NEED a REP in office to VETO all of the unreasonable bills that will come across the president's desk.

 

I remember when BUSH senior was president. He was heavily criticized, for VETOing something like 66 straight bills sent to him by the DEM controlled House and Senate. I took the time to research those 66 bills. I would've VETOed almost all of them, too.

 

VETO power is a GOOD thing. The DEMs having control of all three branches is a BAD thing.

[Bill Hincher]

there's a 1 in 5 chance that Palin will be president if McCain is elected

 

 

GOOD!

 

Its about time a 'common' citizen becomes the president instead of the polished ' elite' ...........that IS the way it should be

 

lets face it, she can't do any worse then what we have, would you rather have dinner with her or Barney 'lollypop' Franks?

[PDX87Starion]

The DEMs having control of all three branches is a BAD thing.

 

That is pure speculation. History prooves that the GOP having control of all three branches is a really BAD thing.

 

History also says the only time in the last 40 years that we have had a balanced budget was a democrat as president and the GOP with the majority in congress. Is this what we need again? Regardless of who is pres the economy is going to get worse. If Obama is pres there is a very good chance that the GOP will take back the majority in congress in the mid term elections. If thats whats gonna work for getting spending under control and America back on track I'm all for it regardless of the political parties.

 

 

Also, I must say before the GOP had the majority during the first Clinton years not one republican voted for Clintons economic plan. They were all screaming how bad it was going to destroy the economy (and the unemployment rate was already at 7%) One guy said he would eat his hat if it worked, well we all know records were set during the Clinton years for economic growth and when he left unemployment was below 4%, we had a surplus, and the debt was going down. Now the debt clock in NYC literally ran out of space. I guess they need to add some more digits to it. Pathetic!

[Bill Hincher]

That is pure speculation. History prooves that the GOP having control of all three branches is a really BAD thing.

 

History also says the only time in the last 40 years that we have had a balanced budget was a democrat as president and the GOP with the majority in congress. Is this what we need again? Regardless of who is pres the economy is going to get worse. If Obama is pres there is a very good chance that the GOP will take back the majority in congress in the mid term elections. If thats whats gonna work for getting spending under control and America back on track I'm all for it regardless of the political parties.

 

 

Also, I must say before the GOP had the majority during the first Clinton years not one republican voted for Clintons economic plan. They were all screaming how bad it was going to destroy the economy (and the unemployment rate was already at 7%) One guy said he would eat his hat if it worked, well we all know records were set during the Clinton years for economic growth and when he left unemployment was below 4%, we had a surplus, and the debt was going down. Now the debt clock in NYC literally ran out of space. I guess they need to add some more digits to it. Pathetic!

 

 

the clinton administration's short sighted economic policies are what got us here, he sold our country's soul to get good economic's during his term. the dow was over priced at 10,000 points let alone going to 14000 ,and greenspan knew it

the market dont lie, it is self correcting right now, probably back down to 8000 points before bottom.

just be calm, this will all blow over. this is nothing new

[Edde]

It's that he decided to put her there. His judgement is so severely called into question that I don't have to wait for her to be in office to be frightened. McCain scares me now too.

 

Bingo. We have a winner!