Boosted_One Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 How hard would it be to convert a header from a Mitsu flange to a Garret or whatever flange? I not sure that I'll stay happy with the 20g-06 if I keeping hearing that I can get more from a different setup. I'm going to go with a exhaust header with the rebuild. And I don't want to spend $400+ on a header that I will evenually not be able to use anymore. If I were in your place and not wanting to spend a lot of $$$ at once, I would get the header built with a T3 flange and use an exhaust housing from a syclone/typhoon. Then if you decide to go garret later, you don't have to modify the header. The sy/ty housing flows a lot better than the stocker. At least that's what I did http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTA0MjY1NTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg ADAM Now THAT'S what i call a real a 20G! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg_43 Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 If I were in your place and not wanting to spend a lot of $$$ at once, I would get the header built with a T3 flange and use an exhaust housing from a syclone/typhoon. Then if you decide to go garret later, you don't have to modify the header. The sy/ty housing flows a lot better than the stocker. At least that's what I did ADAM I did not now that was possible, I think I will do that. Does a Sy/Ty housing work with a stock downpipe, WG and everything? Or are there some other mods that I'd have to do? TopDawg_43~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFastBeater Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Oops, I guess I should have mentioned that. The downpipe flange for the sy/ty is a little smaller and is clocked different. I had to search around a little to find a flange that would fit. I also had to do some additional modification to the downpipe because the header I built moved the turbo back a few inches. My exhaust is the old CNM 3" that didn't have the seperate downpipe, so I put some 3" flanges at the bottom of the downpipe so if I ever have to do this again for a new turbo, I can just unbolt the downpipe and modify it instead of pulling the whole exhaust off again. If I wasn't 3000+ miles away I'd send some pics so you can see what I'm talking about. It definately took some fabrication but at least I'm ready for an upgrade if I choose to do so. PM me if you have any more questions and good luck! ADAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFastBeater Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I forgot to include that the sy/ty turbine housing is internally gated like the stock housing. I made the stock wastegate actuator work, but I think the sy/ty actuator would be better. I bought one from substock but didn't have a chance to put it on before I left. ADAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg_43 Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm pretty sure my header is going to move the turbo, so I expected to have to deal with that. But where the best place to go to find a flange for the downpipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFastBeater Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm pretty sure my header is going to move the turbo, so I expected to have to deal with that. But where the best place to go to find a flange for the downpipe? I found one at the third exhaust shop I stopped at. It was on their "misc parts" peg board. I think a 2.5" header collector is close, but the flange probably isn't thick enough to handle it. I would find a sy/ty forum and ask those guys where they get them. ADAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg_43 Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I found one at the third exhaust shop I stopped at. It was on their "misc parts" peg board. I think a 2.5" header collector is close, but the flange probably isn't thick enough to handle it. I would find a sy/ty forum and ask those guys where they get them. ADAM PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 looks like a tight fit for the wastegate. how will that treat you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted December 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 If you are asking me, the wastegate fits. Its close quarters but I can still get to everything I need. I haven't had much time to work on it but I did get the charge pipe welded up. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MjgxMTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg and here is a pic of the collectorhttp://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1MjgwNTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpgChad did some nice work on this thing. On a side note, I tried to get off cheap making the hard pipe for the air filter from an ebay cold air intake from a 88-89 crx. I paid $35 bucks thinking it would be 3" aluminum mandrel bends I could cut up and re weld to make fit. Turns out its only 2.75" :cry: Anyone have a good supplier for 3" aluminum bends?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I got a set of (6) 90*'s on ebay for ~$100, search intercooler tubes or pipes, there is a vendor that sells them in every size imaginable in thier ebay store. All are mandrel bends and polished. I don't think you can get less than 3 though. I got my set with the desings to only use 4 or 5 so I'll have atleast 1 spare, do you just need one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted December 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I probably wont even need 1 whole 90. The problem I was hoping to get around by using the crx intake is that I only need partial bends and when you cut and reweld a sectioned 90, one side is 1/16th thick and the other is streched to 1/32nd. It makes it a complain to weld back together. Thanks for the info. I'll see what I come up with with that search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 http://stores.ebay.com/FCD-Tuning_W0QQcolZ...1QQftidZ2QQtZkm they also sell 2.75" to 3" adapters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoolinturbo Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 well this is my first time seeing this post... :shock: nice work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad2theBone Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 What you guys think about this type of turbo manifold with the short pipes. http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...ent=1212052.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...ent=1212054.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...ent=1214054.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...ent=1214052.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...rent=124042.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...nt=DSC00024.jpg http://photobucket.com/albums/a82/PANGSTUF...rent=121405.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted January 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 done with install. Now its time to tune http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE5MjUxMjZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Nice job heefner. I can't wait to see your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplee Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 done with install. Now its time to tune http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE5MjUxMjZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg nice, can't wait for the graph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZPI28 Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Once you get it tuned, I cant wait to see a track time.. Stevenm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questsi Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Very nice....Should produce some huge numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedz Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 The quality and workmanship look great on it. We at the Z car side had SFP make a small run of headers for our turbo vehicles. All I can say is if you care to, read the posts about SFP, they werent very well crafted and fitment was always an issue. That is a great looking header, and I like what the owner said, the engine bay is not a decorative bathroom. How much more true could that statement be. http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t...ight=SFP+header J-Taylor had a SFP header, It was horrible. The Flange had rust pits all in it and it would not come CLOSE to bolting up. He sent it back to them and months later he gets it back and it STILL would not fit. If you could maybe get with James Thagard @ www.speedshopthagard.com He might help out in the header dept.He has built some awesome headers among a ton of other cool things. It would be awesome to have one. but for me Cost is too great. Maybe one day.__________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted February 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 The quality and workmanship look great on it. We at the Z car side had SFP make a small run of headers for our turbo vehicles. All I can say is if you care to, read the posts about SFP, they werent very well crafted and fitment was always an issue. That is a great looking header, and I like what the owner said, the engine bay is not a decorative bathroom. How much more true could that statement be. http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t...ight=SFP+header J-Taylor had a SFP header, It was horrible. The Flange had rust pits all in it and it would not come CLOSE to bolting up. He sent it back to them and months later he gets it back and it STILL would not fit. If you could maybe get with James Thagard @ www.speedshopthagard.com He might help out in the header dept.He has built some awesome headers among a ton of other cool things. It would be awesome to have one. but for me Cost is too great. Maybe one day.__________________ That post sums up my experience with SFP as well. I tried 5 different alterations to 3 different headers and probably spent $100 just in shipping to get a SFP header to work. I had zero success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg_43 Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 This is one of the sexiest pieces that I've ever seen!http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1790846/9871119/140782675.jpg http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1790846/9871119/140782674.jpg http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1790846/9871119/140782673.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingo1 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Here is a pic of my custom header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Wow! that thing looks nice. Will you have room for a compressor to sit on there with out hitting number 2 runner? would love to see some pics of it bolted to the head in the engine bay. It looks like the Wastgate will dump back into the down pipe or will you be running 2 "downpipes"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingo1 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Here you go Still need to get pics of it mounted I will say that abs needs to be removed and power steering needs to be rerouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts