Ironside Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Need opinions on each side of the fence. Either I spend 2500 for mpi or over twice that (with more power) for 2jz.Decisions decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_99 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Need opinions on each side of the fence. Either I spend 2500 for mpi or over twice that (with more RELIABLE power) for 2jz.Decisions decisions. Fixed it for you and I vote 2J as I am on the hunt for a 1J/R154 ATM. BC_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Good call Britt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOHO Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 It wouldn't cost 5k. Especially if you go 1jz.... What are your goals? If you want to stay around 400-450 and have a 5 speed...1jz is almost impossible to beat price wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSQuest88 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Motor swap. You'll be happy you did. Newer technology on newer motors is your friend when it comes to ease of tuning. ALso finding parts will probably be a little easier. Plus 2jz has plenty of potential once you get it in and running good. Just my .02 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questsale Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-1JZ-GTE-VVTI-ENGINE-CHASER-SUPRA-SOARER-2-5L-ENGINE-Auto-Trans-/161321936423?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item258f896627&vxp=mtr 1JZ $1,500. Add $300 for a trans, some custom drive shaft work, mounts, home made IC piping and you can have it for less than $3k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 You guys got me thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I haven't seen a r154 trans for 300 bucks. Are you talking about another tranny? Braden your right, after seeing what you and Mike went through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_99 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) I was advised in my search to avoid the vvti engines as they tend to be more difficult when you want to upgrade things. I'm looking at spending between $2500 and $3000 for a complete swap setup. Then it's just exhaust, wiring, plumbing, and a driveshaft. Btw I just purchased a set of 1jz/2jz engine mounts that I plan to test fit, and then make fixtures to duplicate them, but make them much nicer. I hope they fit ok, if not they will just be expensive paper weights. Lol BC_99 Edited May 30, 2014 by BC_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTTY Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Mpi 26s done right are a BLAST to drive and i love em but yes swaps are the way to go for turd survival , the W58 trans is sturdy enough and underated , if your only looking for daily driving duty with occasional boost blasts its up to the task, the 1jz is a terrific power plant and can rev , cheap and readily available as is the Toyota 1uz fe v8 , another excellent readily available swap candidate for the SQ. Edited May 30, 2014 by SOTTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I agree Britt. I also read to go with the gte engines. Sounds like I could go 2jz for a grand more then buying mpi.Kinda sucks though my motor only has about 7k on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntercooledFlatty Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Swapped quest rule...Nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTTY Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Swapped quest rule...Nuff saidyup x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 So far this is a one sided conversation. Where are all the swap haters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchi934 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 i stand firm in my belief that the g54 is no boat anchor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTTY Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 So far this is a one sided conversation. Where are all the swap haters?the only swap hater can be found on Starquest i-x talking to himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTTY Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 i stand firm in my belief that the g54 is no boat anchor.i agree man , the ol G54b ain't as bad as folk make it out to be but with so many more modern alternatives available swaps are getting to be more popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87star Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 If you're open minded enough to want to swap then do it! Does it really matter what you're swapping to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I like the g54b. It's a good motor when built right. Having said that when my MPI car is all done I plan on getting another SQ and doing a swap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionbull Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Go mpi with your stock motor and make 400hp. Make sure it is mechanically healthy first. If not they are cheap torebuild. Make sure to do your home work on crankcase ventilation and head porting. Get a competent tuner. Use e85 if it is available in your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Swapping is understandable, it's gaining popularity across the board in all makes/models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_99 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Yes the gte is what you want, the others are just naturally aspirated. Fwiw, Sotty's 1uz car is freaking unbelievable to go for a ride in. V-8 torque and still very mild and drivable in traffic, but when he lets her rip.....oh the sexy sounds that erupt from that otherwise mild mannered beast. The g54 is fine if you want to build one for just putting around, but if you want real power and tons of aftermarket support, swap it. You can spend equal money from start to finish on either but between the g54 and any jz platform, you will have better results and likely be happier with a jz. The problem you have is that you've already spent some pretty good coin on the g54 in there now. BC_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHARDmitsu. Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 If you are shooting for around 350-450whp on pump gas, a g54b done right will do. Forged pistons will be extra insurance. 2jz/1jz are strong but costs more to do a swap and maintainance/upgrade parts arn't cheap. Also, a fully dressed 2jz/1jz with all fluids in the engine will add about 150+ pounds to the front end of your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarquestRescue Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 A lot of surger coating from the Toyota guys on cost and reliability. I hear things that do not get posted on here. It is not all cheep fun and games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesey Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 If you want to go fast you got to pay to play. Doesn't matter what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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