importwarrior Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Does the engine crankcase actually need an inlet for that much sucking power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I had the pcv on there in case it didn't work and haven't gone back and plugged it. But now that you called me out, I'm gonna plug it. In yo face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 LoL at least a filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu_Crash Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 It sure would be nice if the inlet and outlet were on opposite sides from each other.Either way I just picked one up. The filter on my VC needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 from what I'm reading it seems most forget about how the stock aux air valve worked , sure the exh will pull a vacuum , but keep in mind that also the exh will back feed hot gases into the intake at certain times that why they added a back fire valve into the system this opens to akow air flow to the exh but closes so hot exh gas can not flow into the engine from the exh system , basically all a back fire valve is is a one way valve capable of handling hot exh gas and high temps any one using the exh to draw blow by out should deff use a back fire valve as a safty decice ,, be aware that most will make some undesirable noise as they work , esp at idle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstieg Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 from what I'm reading it seems most forget about how the stock aux air valve worked , sure the exh will pull a vacuum , but keep in mind that also the exh will back feed hot gases into the intake at certain times that why they added a back fire valve into the system this opens to akow air flow to the exhbut closes so hot exh gas can not flow into the engine from the exh system ,basically all a back fire valve is is a one way valve capable of handling hot exh gas and high temps any one using the exh to draw blow by out should deff use a back fire valve as a safty decice ,, be aware that most will make some undesirable noise as they work , esp at idle Thanks Shelby. Great point as I recently was made aware. Currently have this on order. http://www.ebay.com/itm/200722006970?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTU0WDMwMA==/z/Z8kAAOSwI~VTyCvS/$_35.JPG Since I only need one of the two valves, the other will be for sale. I was NOT aware of any noises from this valve however. Hopefully it's not too bad. Could heat wrap it to deaden it some I suppose, even though it'll be further down past the WB O2 sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Noise from those valves will most likely not be heard at all. If the system is plumbed then all the noise stays in the hoses. I had 2 of these on a V8 car as part of the smog pump system. Never heard them until I took all the hoses off to delete the smog pump. Then I could hear the valves rattle on decel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) those valves are junk and when they fail, blow oil EVERYWHERE Edited August 30, 2014 by Funky Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstieg Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) those valves are junk and when they fail, blow oil EVERYWHERE Well Dam dam. Can't have that. What's the recc? Only need the bung & valve. Many available around same price range. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H1.XCrankcase+Evacuation+valve&_nkw=Crankcase+Evacuation+valve&_sacat=0 Still considering the OEM separator UCW458 reccs btw. No smog tests in FL. Edited August 30, 2014 by mstieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 flame is what destroys those valves,, that's why chyr and ford finally moved the pipe way down stream 4-5 ft from the exh manifold , and a turbo makes that flame from the exh travel a good ways down stream on the down pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstieg Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Right. That's why I'm planning well down the pipe past the O2 sensor. The valve is back angled about 2 inches off the pipe on the bung/connector tube. Having a turbine housing cast of solid stainless should help with heat dissipation. You can touch it within a minute of dyno pull and not burn finger. Sorry for thread jack. Hope this helps more than just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu_Crash Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 My X5 unit showed up today. It looks to have a seam between the 2 top ports. I want to take it apart and spin the top port 180° Plus I'd love to see the inside. I'll let you know how that goes ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 87redstar Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 flame is what destroys those valves,, Guess Im not using those since the LC flame goes 3ft past the muffler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstieg Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 My X5 unit showed up today. It looks to have a seam between the 2 top ports. I want to take it apart and spin the top port 180° Plus I'd love to see the inside. I'll let you know how that goes ☺ Please do post. Mine's on the way also. Want to know if I can improve it in any way. Guess Im not using those since the LC flame goes 3ft past the muffler Bung should be mounted past the WB O2 sensor anyways. Plus you should be using a one-way valve to prevent flame from ever going backward up the hose/pipe to X5 anyhow. I'm following Phil's lead & going with the NAPA 2-29000 valve. http://www.sqperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=92.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 What I did on mine was go to a parts store and browse the selection of molded hoses. I got one with a 90 on the end and about 3' of hose. Works great for that turn at the separator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 does any one have a vacuum gauge on their exh vapor draw set up , I'd be interested in seeing the resulting vac signal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu_Crash Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 One of these days I'll get this separator in there ... probably after archery season closes this saturday. But I need to get the snowmobile back together too. Projects never end! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstieg Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 does any one have a vacuum gauge on their exh vapor draw set up , I'd be interested in seeing theresulting vac signal I tried this previously to monitor the intake vacc with the KrankVents, however the Autometer was not showing the very small fluctuations in there with any real accuracy. Would need a more sensitive gauge than my -20 to +15 vacc/boost gauge. Good stuff all. Thanks for input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87star Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 does any one have a vacuum gauge on their exh vapor draw set up , I'd be interested in seeing the resulting vac signal Stock system, stock boost levels at full chat the vacuum is 1-2 inches of water in the crankcase. Small but still in the vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) This is what I built for killaphil's car. 4 baffles, mesh, and 10AN fittings with a 6AN drain.http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/sqperformance/FUNK%20LAB/Killaphil/photo2_zps29e91d10.jpg Routed to the intake like stockhttp://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/sqperformance/FUNK%20LAB/Killaphil/photo4_zps9ffbc67f.jpghttp://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/sqperformance/FUNK%20LAB/Killaphil/photo1_zpsc6ad63fd.jpghttp://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/sqperformance/FUNK%20LAB/Killaphil/photo3_zps1f3d41e4.jpghttp://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh538/sqperformance/FUNK%20LAB/Killaphil/photo5_zps1dd13691.jpg Edited November 15, 2014 by Funky Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87star Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'm tellin' ya Mr. P, group buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 If there is interest, i'd consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu_Crash Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Funkstar if you build it I will buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needsq Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Give me a price and a paypal address. I want one as long as it is cheaper than one they are asking from place at Powerhouse and the like. Edited November 16, 2014 by needsq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well it wouldnt be $600. But I wouldnt turn that offer away.......... Im not doing any lines. Just the tank that would mount to the ABS brackets with barb or 10AN inlet/outlet fittings and 6AN drain.Ill whip a couple up and see if they sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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