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#1 NikoFab

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

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Gentlemen,I created this thread to seperate it from the feeler thread, and make the group purchase a bit easier to manage.After a lot of research, phone calls, emails, etc. we are finally down to business.  As I indicated in the feeler post about this group buy (http://www.starquest...howtopic=134121), I felt that 75 units was the ideal to make this group worthwhile.  Having worked as much magic as would make David Copperfield proud, I have gotten the fabricator to reduce initial run requirements to a 50 unit purchase, while still keeping pricing reasonable.  I will also be donating one of my OEM front air dams for this project to help eliminate CAD and prototyping costs, therefore making this endeavor only reliant upon digital scanning.

So what we're looking at is a final firm price of 270.00 plus shipping.  In order to adequately take care of up-front costs, deposits will be $200.00.  As soon as we have 50 orders/deposits, I can make the purchase of the material and have it shipped to the fabricator.  I can also commission the fabricator to begin the tooling process at that point.  The tooling process will take approximately 4-6 weeks.  The forming and trimming process will take an additional 2 weeks.

So we're looking at roughly a 6 to 8 week turn-around after all deposits are in.A quick review of the feeler post: These airdams ARE NOT going to be fiberglass, FRP, or CF.  The overwhelming response from the membership is that these materials break, splinter, and crack too easily.  

These dams will be made from TPO, a thermoplastic that bears similar characteristics (flexible but strong) to the OEM urethane airdams.  The advantage of TPO is that it can be vacuum molded, thus bringing the cost down considerably versus injection-molded urethane.Now it's time to grab the family jewels and make this happen!  

PM me if you want in on the buy.  Deposits can be made via paypal (address is below) or money order.  PM me if you need my address to send a money order.  I will also need the address where you eventually want the air dam shipped to.  You can check out my SQC feedback thread here: http://www.starquest...howtopic=131460You can check out my Ebay feedback here: http://feedback.ebay...ck&myworld=true

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Edit 4/4/13This was suggested by another member and I like the idea.  I think it serves as a fair and just method to everybody involved.This group buy is going to be capped at 50 units.  We have 50 people signed up but are still awaiting deposits/payments from just under half of the list.  I am going to start an "on deck" list.  This list is for those of you who'd like to get in on the group buy, but are not one of the first fifty who signed up.  If anyone who's already on the list doesn't provide their deposit/payment by May 1st, those on the "on deck" list will start replacing them (providing deposit/payment is made)...starting with the beginning of the list.Please understand that I'm not trying to create any drama or cause conflict.  I'm simply trying to provide incentive to get this thing done.  There are some who have had their deposits/payments in for nearly three months, and I must try to honor their patience by getting this ball rolling.The on deck list is on the original post just below the group purchase list.

Group Purchase:

1. clow340 (set two) - paid in full 5/15/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/2/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0402 0630
2. CaliConquestAlex - paid in full 4/17/13 (270.00) - final payment 10/31/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0403 1524
3. needsq (set two) - deposit received 5/20/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/1/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0403 5210
4. jdl007 (set two) - final payment 3/25/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0412 1423
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 3/25/14 - Bundled With Airdam Above
5. MotoCam360 (set five) - deposit received (200.00) - Pickup
6. Coke (set two) - paid in full 5/22/13 (270.00) - final payment 2/8/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0404 3068
7. infamos - paid in full 1/12/13 (270.00) - final payment 10/31/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0404 9191
8. averse - deposit received 5/28/13 (200.00) - final payment 3/5/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0405 2810
  • Chin Spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 3/5/14 - Bundled With Airdam Above
9. kidjc - deposit received 1/15/13 (200.00) - final payment 3/14/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0405 5966
10. TexasQuest - deposit received 1/14/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/2/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0406 0884
11. BC_99 (set two) - paid in full 4/29/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/2/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0406 5820
12. duckheads - paid in full 1/14/13 (270.00) - final payment 3/16/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0407 2009
13. wolfsquest - paid in full 8/1/13
  • Chin Spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece
14. conq2230 - deposit received 4/6/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/9/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0407 5350
15. Coke - paid in full 4/19/13 (270.00) - final payment 2/8/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0404 3068
16. JDean - deposit received 4/8/13 (200.00) - final payment 12/30/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0407 9643
17. clow340 - paid in full 2/16/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/2/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0402 7679
18. sellerfeller - deposit received 5/8/13 (200.00 - final payment 11/8/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0408 1540
  • Chin Spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 11/8/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
19. ShadowTSi - paid in full 2/6/13 (270.00)
20. Skullzaflare - paid in full 4/15/13 (270.00) - final payment 5/3/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0408 6690
21. MotoCam360 (set 4) - deposit received (200.00) - Pickup
22. BC_99 - paid in full 1/11/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/2/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0406 8646
23. jisleyjr - deposit received 1/14/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/3/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0408 9508
24. Burton - traded in full 5/20/13 (270.00) - Pickup
25. MotoCam360 (set 1) - deposit received 2/7/13 (200.00) - Pickup
26. MotoCam360 (set 2) - deposit received 3/25/13 (200.00) - Pickup
27. MotoCam360 (set 3) - deposit received 3/25/13 (200.00) - Pickup
28. jjohnson - final payment 3/14/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0552 1626
29. psu_Crash (set two) - paid in full 4/21/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/14/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0409 4551
30. Walker - deposit received 1/11/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/20/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0549 8212
31. ColdScrip - deposit received 4/9/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/3/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0410 0182
32. conquestador89 - paid in full 2/17/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/3/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0410 3160
33. traps - deposit received 3/8/13 (200.00) - final payment 12/13/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0410 4854
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 1.0 Full Size One Piece - payment received 3/13/13 - Bundled With Above Airdam
34. D_Venable - paid in full 5/13/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/16/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0410 7989
35. vanillagorilla - paid in full 5/4/13 (270.00) - final payment 12/18/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0411 3506
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 5/4/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
36. Mattc - paid in full 1/10/13 (270.00) - final payment 12/13/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0411 6652
37. psu_Crash - paid in full 1/9/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/14/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0409 6381
38. jdl007 (set one) - deposit received 1/14/13 (200.00) - final payment 2/7/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0412 3301
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 3/4/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
39. RPG - paid in full 5/20/13 (270.00) - final payment 3/26/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0549 9572
40. MN-Starion - deposit received 5/1/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/1/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0550 1462
41. hopefull noob - paid in full 5/4/13 (270.00) - final payment - Fedex Tracking 7703 0550 2079
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 5/4/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
42. Squrlsquash - paid in full 5/8/13 (270.00) - final payment 12/13/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0550 3535
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 5/8/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
43. Shaggy_TSi - paid in full 5/21/13 (270.00)
44. needsq - paid in full 2/16/13 (270.00) - final payment 11/1/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0403 8161
  • Chin Spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 4/6/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
45. Cloud81918 - deposit received 2/24/13 (200.00) - final payment 11/26/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0550 5799
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 1.0 Full Size One Piece - payment received 11/26/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
46. MPGorBOOST - paid in full 3/25/13 (270.00) - final payment 2/4/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0550 6306
  • Chin spoiler: Rev. 3.0 Notched 1-piece - payment received 4/4/13 - Bundled With Airdam Above
47. Burton - traded in full 5/20/13 (270.00) - Pickup
48. Fault - paid in full 4/5/13 (270.00) - final payment 12/30/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 0077
49. taeisallin - paid in full 3/29/13 (270.00) - final payment 4/3/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 2757
50. Shaggy_TSi (set two) - paid in full 5/28/13 (270.00)
51. BillS - deposit received 9/12/13 (200.00) - final payment 10/31/13 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 1382
52. cobralucci - final payment 2/3/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 3569
53. unforgiva31e - final payment 2/13/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 4646
54. chlngr440 - final payment 2/13/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 5815
55. DReady - final payment 3/7/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 7196
56. Keben - final payment 3/13/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 8608
  • Chin Spoiler: Rev. 1.0 Full Size One Piece - payment received 3/13/14 - Bundled With Airdam Above
57. fresnog54b - paid in full 3/13/14 - final payment 3/25/14 - Fedex Tracking 7703 0551 9497

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#2 ShadowTSi

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

Turn around time seems extremely reasonable, very quick for coming up with a completely new part from scratch, major props!

I'll be able to place my deposit, if not full payment within the next couple weeks most likely.

Definitely looking forward to this! Thanks for putting it together, and here's hoping that we get to 50 people quickly!
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 01:41 AM

View PostShadowTSi, on 06 December 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Turn around time seems extremely reasonable, very quick for coming up with a completely new part from scratch, major props!

I'll be able to place my deposit, if not full payment within the next couple weeks most likely.

Definitely looking forward to this! Thanks for putting it together, and here's hoping that we get to 50 people quickly!

thank you sir!  i've learned through other group buys i've put together that you never want to short-call the turn-around time...i try to be realistic...it helps people manage their expectations.

my thoughts here are that it will indeed take a bit to get 50 people on board.  i know xmas is coming up so i don't want to rush this and keep some of the guys out of the buy who would otherwise be interested.  the nice thing is that i've locked in this pricing with the fabricator and the material supplier so that any delay on our part doesn't penalize us.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

Jerry,

Got your PM thank you sir!

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:41 PM

Sorry man I'm out,,,I was hopeing a little lower,,,coupled with shipping
It's about the same price as the other ones.
I'm sure ill need one some year,,at which I'm sure ill pay out the nose,,, but
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:02 PM

Guys keep in mind, buying into this now is insurance for future availability of this part. This first run needs to happen so the molds and stuff can be produced. Once the molds and associated parts are created, it'll be easier in the future for Niko to get these made for the community.. Like Burton said in the other post. OEM airdam supplys will eventually dry up and be no more, then what? If the intial price is a lil higher now, so be it, especially if it assures us of having something reliable to fall back on in the coming years when the OEM urethane airdams are a thing of the past. If you plan on having one of these cars for awhile and would like to have airdams available a few years from now, please consider buying into this.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:29 PM

View PostBC_99, on 07 December 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Guys keep in mind, buying into this now is insurance for future availability of this part. This first run needs to happen so the molds and stuff can be produced. Once the molds and associated parts are created, it'll be easier in the future for Niko to get these made for the community.. Like Burton said in the other post. OEM airdam supplys will eventually dry up and be no more, then what? If the intial price is a lil higher now, so be it, especially if it assures us of having something reliable to fall back on in the coming years when the OEM urethane airdams are a thing of the past. If you plan on having one of these cars for awhile and would like to have airdams available a few years from now, please consider buying into this.

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This is a great point.  I agree with BC and Burton...we are nearing a time when all the OEM dams will be gone.  And as BC states, this will ensure that we have a source for these dams for the future, because the tooling and the mold will be there for as long as we want.

Please also understand that I got to this price point because I'm going to be putting down approx. 1/4 of the over-all cost of the initial run to make this happen (translation...roughly $5500).  So in effect, I'm buying the mold.  All you guys are paying for is the material, the labor for tooling, labor for forming and trimming, and the shipping.  If that wasn't the case, the price would be considerably higher.  That's a big commitment from me to the community, but I do it because it will pay off in the long run.

I understand that trying to put together 50 or more people is difficult, especially with the fairly small community we have.  We're not all made of money, and it's hard sometimes to get in on group buys that have a time limit.  So I'm more than willing to wait this out until we have that many people.  Guys like D_Veneble and MasterVivi really want in on this, but have extenuating circumstances that prevent them from buying right now...but they want to buy in the first quarter of next year.  As such, what do you all say to keeping this thing alive until such time that we can make this happen?  What time line would you guys like to consider?  I'm open to all opinions so just let me know.

I'm in no rush...this isn't for me...I've got three OEM dams right now...this is for you guys.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:54 AM

OK Gentlemen,

Nobody can say I'm not giving it the old college try here.

An interesting turn of events may prove to be a hail mary for us on this endeavor.  As you all know, I've been researching this project for the last two months.  During my research, I've put feelers and flags out to a lot of people, including old friends.  An old buddy of mine from my Army days got back in touch with me last night via email.  He's been with the US Army Corps of Engineers for the last ten years or so, and does alot of work with FEMA and other such entities.

If you recall, the contruction industry (which the Corp and FEMA are heavily involved in) uses TPO (our media of choice in this project) extensively in various applications.  As such, my buddy has several resources by which to acquire TPO, and acquire it at much better price than I myself can get it at retail, or even wholesale.  He will be getting back with me on Monday as to whether or not he can help us out.

Any-who, the fabricator will still require a minimum 50 unit order, but if my man is able to get it done at the price he pays, then we can get these things done at around the $275.00 mark.

Now what do you guys think?  :D

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:15 AM

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:39 AM

Hope it works out for the best Nick! Way to follow through! Good things come to those who wait!

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:24 PM

View Postnatallica, on 08 December 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

Hope it works out for the best Nick! Way to follow through! Good things come to those who wait!

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Thanks N8!  I'm keeping the fingers crossed.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

That's looking a lot better
I'm gonna need a shipping quote,to 46793.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:18 PM

Maybe edit the price on the original post to reflect the change? May help some people to see the accurate price in the description at the beginning :)
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:23 PM

View PostShadowTSi, on 10 December 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

Maybe edit the price on the original post to reflect the change? May help some people to see the accurate price in the description at the beginning :)
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

View Postquikconq, on 10 December 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

That's looking a lot better
I'm gonna need a shipping quote,to 46793.

There's no way for me to get a shipping quote until after they are made and trimmed.  I won't have weights until then.  When comparing to other companies, I should think shipping will fall around $75.00.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

View PostShadowTSi, on 10 December 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

Maybe edit the price on the original post to reflect the change? May help some people to see the accurate price in the description at the beginning :)

Well I did pull the $330.00 off of the thread name.  I will change the OP when I get confirmation on final price.  Cross your fingers.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:03 PM

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There's no way for me to get a shipping quote until after they are made and trimmed.  I won't have weights until then.  When comparing to other companies, I should think shipping will fall around $75.00.

Unhh a ureathane air dam ,is a ureathane air dam,,,,,I thought you had said you had 3 oem
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

uhhhh,

1. TPO and urethane aren't the exact same weight
2. Yes I have three airdams...one of which is new and is on my car
3. The dams will ship from the fabricator (97218), not me
4. Remember that shipping also inlcudes the box and packing materials costs, which we don't have yet...can't quote what we don't have, and can't just wrap these in bubble wrap and send them on their way.  I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm not going to quote something that I'm not sure of.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:55 PM

Ok here we go guys.  Good news...pricing came down like I was trying to do.

New price is $270.00 plus shipping.  I will not have a firm price on shipping until I find out how much exactly they're going to weigh.  I will also need to get pricing on a box to ship them in, as well as packaging materials.  The fabricator has agreed to ship directly to each of you instead of shipping all 50 to me, and then me to you.  So that will help eliminate wasteful shipping costs.

However, judging from other companies, I would assume that shipping and packaging should run around $75.00 or so.  As I have more detail, I will relay the information to you guys.

Nick

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:54 PM

Pricing seems perfectly reasonable to me considering the size of packaging and care that goes into packing something up like this!
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