jinx Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 DSM blocks have a smaller bell pattern than the starion I have have a starion 2.0L (non US) motor - 2.6 starion gbox bolts on. This 2.0 4g63 SOHC is actually the parent of the DOHC 4g63. For 2.0 dohc into starion conversions abroad, it is common to just swap the guts to the rwd block, then bolt on the dohc head. Intent was to keep driveline stock... quite a few running around starion gearbox supply can be an issue, as I've seen guys beating the snot outta 'em, using them up 'cause they WERE cheap / available - just over the last 2 yrs. Gearbox, especially 88/9, are good units, but you get age on one end... "kids" getting a hold of cheap starions, on the other end.. and in the middle, gear-bangers trying to make an 11sec car outta a 13sec one. >>"factory toyota bellhousing and compared it to a starion bellhousing, and it's the EXACT same bolt pattern." now that's interesting! I got a w58 (from non turbo supra) with intentions of using behind the 2.6... I wasn't in any rush to collect it from my buddy, now I'd better grab that. I know japanese swap parts among one another... but this. I've also seen the same auto tranny used with a different bell. I guess it's up to what the automaker specifies to keep "parts bin count" (& prices) down. turbo gen3 supra tranny is one stout looking piece Dellow makes bellousings that adapt the Wxx 5sp to many make motors... they don't cover the 2.6 any longer. I guess if it becomes a real prob, we could get them or a us maker like kennedy to cast some I think Plebani said that truck tranny lasted a long life of "just minutes" behind his motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiercedJD Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 www.geocities.com/piercedjd/4G63Conquest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awd92gsx Posted June 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 The truck tranny Eric's talking about is the 2.0L truck tranny, not the 2.6L or 2.4L tranny...which are considerably stronger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 Hear is some more info to confuse the issue. So far toyota tranys I have tryed have not matched up to any thing mit. But the auto in the 87 to 89 or 90 D50 is the same basic trany as the toyota. But you have to change the overdrive forwand to use it on a 2.6 eng. But I have in my shop out of a 84 D50 4/4 an adapter plate that was used to go from a 2.6 engine to a 4/4 trany with a 2.0 Lt bolt pattern. What was done is 2 plates were made with one having the 2.6 pattern the other 2.0 pattern. The holes to bolt to the plates to the engine were drilled al the way through, and the 2Lt holes the same but they welded bolts though the plates and then welded the 2 plates together. The early D50's used cry 904 tranys which had the 2.Lt bolt pattern. AS far as i have fund the 54 engine has its owen pattern as does the 3LT the 1800,2000, and 2400 all have the same bolt pattern for the trany.That is what I have in my shop as far as adapter plates sofar. Have fun Mark T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 I'm very interested in the info on the w58 and the g54b. Anyone with info please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TainterRacing Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 http://www.dentsport.com/stariontranny/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 less interested in the 4g63 or 4g64. I already have the w58 tranny and there is no way I'm putting in the 2.0 in my car. I'm trying to round up any and all info on the G54B and toyota supra tranny. Dose PiercedJD still post on any boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89onaquest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 http://www.dentsport.com/stariontranny/index.htm old news interested in that plate adapter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89onaquest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 OK... this is my chime in... the 4G64 has 2 forms. Narrow and wide block The narrow, is well the same as the 4G63 narrow bolt pattern. The wide pattern is the same as the 2.6 Mitsu. The D50 narrow 2.0 trans bolts to the 4G63. I know, I see it about everyday. I am involved in a swap that is using the D50 2.0 trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siance Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Ok, thats cool, but how much power could the 2.0 d50 trans handle? 200hp,300hp 500hp?.....i doubt it!! If i could bolt the d50 trans up to the 4g63 and hold 300hp to the wheels pretty reliable, i would do the swap right now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALANFROMPDX Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 The g64b engine will also mate to the g54b tranny. I got the mounting plate from the yard off a mitsu cargo van that was rear wheel drive. deck height was different but it will bolt up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 well put it like this the 2.0 5 spd is the same length and size as the quest 5 spd, so it isn't gona make any mounting diff and you can have the fun of driveing for a while while you locate plate and trans , ask DJ powerhause how his is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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