89onaquest

That is not MS'N'EDIS That is MS as a fuel computer, and the stock ignition... 2 entirely different things...

Imagine the over-head 3K climate.... That would be NICE... 8)

1/4" foam project board... Avail at any wal mart.... Kinda dense, but a layer of RTV for the deeper spots and your done...

Actually I have seen VERY few other systems that work well with MS without major changes to the program code. So yes the majority are forced by default to use the EDIS system. Yes the lower price of the MS is a good attribute... but considering that you can find AEM and Hawk systems on Ebay for 6-800 kind of makes you wonder... And no, they are not on there all the itme, but ocassionally they are that cheap. We just ended up going with the complete DSM set up...

I have built and worked with MS.... as it is now, it has problems going past 9K... The Ford EDIS system will only go so high, it is the problem. SOME have got it to work (But it is not all that stable) above 10K. It tends to drop firing cycles. If your below 9k your fine. Nothing to worry about. Even with the 8X8 tables you would be fine. Set values for idle, begining of powerband, some through out power band and 9K redline. So that would give you 6 powerband values. And you keep saying both here and on DJ's board how cheap it is... for that 256 you get the ECM ONLY... You still need to buy sensors... $40+ You still need to buy wire for the wiring harness... $who knows.... I would HIGHLY recomend the relay box... $ I forget how much... After helping to build 2 of these.... both ran well over the $500 final price range and those were "stock" MS kits... I never said that MS was worthless, I keep taking issue with you keep saying it is cheap. It is not all that "cheap". For those that do not know, Joe and Myself were tring to rung the 4G63 motor on an MS... After several attempts, we never got it running on it. Joe was also unhappy with the 9K redline... after all the motor is balanced and blueprinted... so 11K should not be an issue.

A $5 hardline works too... Hell We just cut and reflared the stock line...

May sound silly but has anyone considered... Getting one with a longer shaft, but a shorter body? You could then mess with the shaft length by making shaft covers that would be welded into place to get the desired length?... Â Â Â Â -------------- -------|<--> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |----] -------|<--> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |----] Â Â Â Â -------------- It may be worth looking into.... then you may find that the Mustang 2 reacks are alot more appealing... they may be too short as is, but some hollow .120 wall tubing and a welder later... they are the perfect fit.... And yes it would be a very near exact science... but one could also tap/die the shaft, and the tubing and have it adjustable with lock nuts just like the standard steering toe adjustment... Just throwing out the idea...

Prepare fpr MPI swap... Header... turbo... and full exhaust.... that will net mid 13's at the very least... but expect more to get into the 12's

someone said 4-500 for mustang wheel spacers... 1" billet 99... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...;category=42614

how many threads you going to do on this thing? I have counted at least 3...

Stainless are 30, for the flange http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4514740020&category=6755 , reg steel is 10-14 (sorry the one I got months ago was 8...) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...;category=33742 these flanges would be welded to the manifold to run the T3... The external wastegate flange is... 17 here, but again they can be found for between 10 and 30 depending oin material and seller... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...;category=33742

and cheaper... We "adapted" a T25 manifold to a T3 manifold for 8 bucks... even tig welded for an additional 18...

or even simpler solution... WELD a tapped T3 flange plate on... Total cost... I will be generous and say 30 bucks... 10 for the flange and a VERY generous 20 to have welded...

Marhyde can paint over about everything. As for the trouble... expect alot of little things. I would suggest doing in portions to make it easier. Like headliners first, a pillars/ rear side panels second ECT...

Actually I do not think that one post was enough. By your wording, you are not considering what I said at all. Forget it... I said what I had to say... do whatever, then I can tell you "I told you so"...