fresnog54b Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) greetings everyone. need some input. I just got my SHP conquest up and running and now for california smog check to get my car back on the road. modifications: m7 magna head, arp bolts, felpro permatorque complete gasket kit,284 schenider cam, 1.6 roller rockers from LSP, HD valve springs, del west titanium keepers/retainers, 1mm oversized valves, port polish from pro tech with newen machine for all work and polish by hand with flow sheet to ensure equal flow in chambers, block is unknown, bought the entire car for 50 bucks, pistons are oversized, looks either hyper U's or forged, never had the chance to pull it apart, but has low miles. Car runs excellent no smoking nothing at all. Everything else is stock, 12a, stock intercooler piping, stock everything. If it does not pass smog, i will install my plug n play megasquirt from scottstar and tweak with the maps. I will keep everyone posted. let me know if any of you have had luck. the visual and miscellanous test will not be a problem. i am just curious about the sniffer test. Edited January 17, 2012 by fresnog54b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesfer Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 In for updates... I haven't attempted to smog my car yet but would like to see how it goes for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistapickles Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo278/mistapickles/SmogNazi.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott87star Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think you'll pass, my Starion passed Texas smog which is the same test as CA in both TBI and MPI guise without jet valves or a functioning EGR system using an MS1 megasquirt. My Bronco II passed running on an MS2 system for three years straight after not passing using the stock ECU. If your car is running well and the cats are working AND everything is nice and hot you'll do fine. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistapickles Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 it should pass if it runs clean and looks stock, most of the time the smog guys don't even know what they're looking at on a Starion...I had black hardpipes on one of my starions and it passed visual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DryBear Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) it should pass if it runs clean and looks stock, most of the time the smog guys don't even know what they're looking at on a Starion...I had black hardpipes on one of my starions and it passed visual.... This is good to hear - I need to smog mine now, and the current mods are hard pipes (painted black), secondary air delete, 3" exhaust with high flow cat, and a 14G turbo. I'm going to put the stock TB to IC soft pipe back on, as my hard pipe has a BOV. I will let you know how it goes. Edited January 17, 2012 by DryBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistapickles Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 This is good to hear - I need to smog mine now, and the current mods are hard pipes (painted black), secondary air delete, 3" exhaust with high flow cat, and a 14G turbo. I'm going to put the stock TB to IC soft pipe back on, as my hard pipe has a BOV. I will let you know how it goes.the guy who smogged my car popped the hood and literally stood there like he was trying to read Japanese...just confused....I didn't have the secondary air and I had a three inch...I can tell you this though, take those stickers off the underside of your hood...he looked for them, it'll tell him there should be a secondary air box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchi934 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 i passed smog in atlanta without EGR or the secondary air system (the tube that dumps into the downpipe behind the valve cover). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF600 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Visual is the killer if they know what to look for. I have hard pipes, 1g bov, gutted pre cat, 14b turbo, non jet head. My nox was high. Not high enough to fail. Passed the sniffer no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alp247 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I agree with RF600...visual is the killer. If your car looks like its modded then the smog refs get all picky. I have had my car smogged for years with these items that will make your car fail in CA:Hard pipessecondary bolted on but not installedDown pipe / removed precat1G Mas installed in OEM canister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesfer Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I agree with RF600...visual is the killer. If your car looks like its modded then the smog refs get all picky. I have had my car smogged for years with these items that will make your car fail in CA:Hard pipessecondary bolted on but not installedDown pipe / removed precat1G Mas installed in OEM canister Are you saying you passed with these items that usually would fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alp247 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) leesfer, sorry...yeah that is what i meant to say. Just try to make sure your car looks as much as stock under the hood to prevent them from snooping around. If you wired anything in the hood makes sure you wrapped up in electrical tape and tie it up neat so it looks stock cause then they start asking questions. Smog refs are getting worse now on visual inspections. I have a 2001 S4 and they got all on me for installing red non OEM hoses and said to me that is a modifications. I had to be nice and work with the smog guy but he let me go. I try not to use color stuff anymore in the hood since Smog refs see color and then they think it's a modification. FYI, All that stuff you have is internal stuff so you should be good since you said everthing else is stock. Edited January 18, 2012 by alp247 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF600 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Agreed with keeping things looking like things have no been messed with. My hard pipes are black, the 1g bov looks like it is supposed to be there. If it looks ricey chances that will look harder to see if you are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistapickles Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Agreed with keeping things looking like things have no been messed with. My hard pipes are black, the 1g bov looks like it is supposed to be there. If it looks ricey chances that will look harder to see if you are legal.Agreed....my EGR is crushed and has freeze plugs pressed into it, I put some RTV in some vacuum lines and plugged the vacuum lines into whatever, it looks like it's a functioning EGR, seriously though, you have to get rid of that hose diagram under the hood....it's a give away that stuff is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFBMX88 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) greetings everyone..... i am just curious about the sniffer test. The longer duration cam may hurt you in the sniffer test. If the duration makes your idle lumpy, and vacuum low, it would most likely result in elevated hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide. If you're located outside of central Fresno, this will be tough since they are BASIC areas and only run the two speed idle (2500rpm and idle) test. http://www.bar.ca.go...Program_Map.pdf To better your chances, I would heat the cats up before getting to the smog station. Try to be the first in line when you get there to make sure the cats retain some heat by the time the test starts. As long as everything looks stock, your timing is correct(10 degrees BTDC at idle speed), and you pass the sniffer and evap test, you should be good. Is your air injection and EGR still hooked up? This is good to hear - I need to smog mine now, and the current mods are hard pipes (painted black), secondary air delete, 3" exhaust with high flow cat, and a 14G turbo. I'm going to put the stock TB to IC soft pipe back on, as my hard pipe has a BOV. I will let you know how it goes. Hey man! I'm basically in your neighborhood, so come by for the SQ discount! take those stickers off the underside of your hood...he looked for them, it'll tell him there should be a secondary air box That only works if the tech is lazy. All stations are required to have reference materials in the case there is no emissions label. FYI: The smog "cutpoints" (passing limits) were reduced for cars in the last few years. I'm sure the will reduce them again in the future. If your car passed on the limit last time, it may not pass this time. :/ Edited January 19, 2012 by SFBMX88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF600 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 A few year back I had a tep roller cam with the roller rockers. I passed ca smog. The engine was not in the greatest shape either. I was running both cats at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 PAY the $25 for a "pre-test". if you fail, it doesn't go to the DMV!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DryBear Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Just an update - I *barely* passed - my HC count was pretty high - at the max acceptable, with CO and NO at above average, but well below max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesfer Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Just an update - I *barely* passed - my HC count was pretty high - at the max acceptable, with CO and NO at above average, but well below max. Can you post a picture of your engine bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thagremlin Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 i was able to pass. i was very surprised that i did. but I'm glad i did. saved me 250 dollars and i don't have stock piping or anything. i just used the maft setup and safc2 to tune it while driving to the smog shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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