grizzly Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 the tranny you need is from a 83-88 mighty max or d50, pretty sure those are the years, dont hold me to that. also must be from a 2.0 liter motor. here is a pic of mine with measurements of the tranny and block http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/dsm2nv/lst?&...rc=bc%26.view=t starion tranny is 13.25 inch bellhousing. the 4g63 and the tranny you need is 12.25" bellhousing. you need a FWD 4g63 flywheel the d50 tranny is junk if you plan to build real HP..... i have seen the starion guts swapped into the d50. its more then just unbolting the bellhousing and bolting on the starion one. does anyone have directions to swap the tranny guts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redliner777 Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 A good place to find the 4G63-T is http://www.nippon-motors.com/ but as of right now they are temporarily out of stock. What I would like to know is this. If the d50 tranny is crap for horsepower, does the tranny from the 2.0 Starion bolt up, and is it better for holding the power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn_Silva Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Proper bellhousings along with the other items required for the swap will be available on my site shortly. www.starconquer.com . This will allow you to bolt on a Toyota W series, which is very reliable in this application. Take care Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereconstructor Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 ahh the infamous 4g63 question...well at least your gettin better anwser than me... i wanted to do this swap myself but have decided to go with another 4 cyl instead. as far as trans go bushur racing will tell you to but there mounts and to use a chevy tubo 350.....although since the block of the jap and aussie 2.0L cars is the same as the 4g63 it should bolt up...and of course the D50 trans will...weither itll hold the power of a modded 4g63 is beyond be...although a toyota trans can be used i beleive that article said that he had to have a bell houseing or adapter plate made...but i dont remember and im to lazy to look : ...anyway goodluck with your swap and post some time slips when its runnning....as for me im saving my hard earned pennies because the engine and trans of choice for me have just been released from chysler in a combination of 3 of there new vehicles... ;D...can you gues what it is.... 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcrasta Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Metric Man, Your link does not convince me that this conversion is worth doing. Â Also your little ram head diamond star logo is bunk. Â The only thing that Chrysler Corp had to do with the Conquest was slap their name on the title. WHY u busting his balls you need to do a engine swap . Geeze $hit like that is why people that actually can do things leave the forum, and leave alot of geeks that dont even know how to adjust the TPS sitting around asking the same questions over and over again. How about something constructive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 dont kill me but go to buschurracing.com email david buschur. they might have a kit to do this all ready for sale. www.buschurracing.com with results like this http://www.buschurracing.com/Conquest_downtrack_LG2.jpg it is hard to not think about the swap. http://www.buschurracing.com/Conquest_Engine_Large_1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 oh and they have bettered there time Check out our 4G63-powered street class Conquest! With a best time of 8.79 @ 151mph, we're having a blast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shawn_Silva Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Thats a W58 86.5+. Â A Â R154 will not fit, the bolt pattern is completely different as well as the case being larger and it will not fit in a quest stock tunnel. The W58 is a tight fit, but it fits no problem. Before you throw around information about a transmission that the UK has been bolting behind Holden V8's, Jag's and high horsepower turbo applications, you might want to do your homework. Â You can blow up any transmission if you try. Â The W58 has proven to handle bucketloads of torque, many with the n/a Supra's have swapped to turbo engines and retained the same transmission with no problems over 450 horse, and thats with the massive torque the 'ol mighty six provides. Take care Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jinx Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 in the hands of a jackazz, u could blow up most gearboxes Guys have busted up plenty R154s too... some under 400hp I have also seen W58s live behind some pretty powerful 7Ms gone turbo *Drive sensibly*, and W58 would take all your little 4cyl could throw at it... don't beat the s*** outta your gearbox, cause u won't be setting any records while breakin' em. Go make some more power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grizzly Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 who makes these engine/trans adapter plates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JustPaus_88TSi Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 ADAPTER PLATE: http://rz-products.com/w_adapter/w_adapter.html This guy is really cool to talk to. He said thew first adapter cost $700 to manufacture. And it didn't even fit right. Cool guy none-the-less. Oops, forgot to mention... It's for the Toyota W-58. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn_Silva Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 I'd like to know how 'close' that bellhousing is. It must be bangon, there is no room for error unless you like main bearing wear, chewed up flywheels, harmonic vibrations that come and go, clutch chatter, front bearing/retainer wear and exploding drivetrain to name a few. Not tooting my own horn but the bellhousings I have fabricated and plan to market on their own and in the 4g63 kit have less than 4 thou runout. Now if I could just center my attention on one r&d project I could offer more to the community! Take care Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_V Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 well I talked to the guy who bought the bellhousing off that swap car the websites for and he says the craftmanship is crap so he's making his own plate- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 well I talked to the guy who bought the bellhousing off that swap car the websites for and he says the craftmanship is crap so he's making his own plate- Off the website I gave? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Metric-man Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Why? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Why? : ya why?? Is he planning on putting that set up in a Peterbuilt or something? I've seen guys running dual turbo 350's but they don't need 432 forward gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest silverngray Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 any of you know how well a six speed out of cramaro fireturd would fit in a starquest trans tunnel? i want a six speed!!! Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quest4Power Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 man, does he even have any kind of driveshaft under that suzuki? looks like the tailshaft would pretty much reach the rear end and even for rock crawling, i don't see the purpose of having that many forward gears. if it's a dedicated rock crawler it should only need about 3 nice low gears and some really low axle gearing. i'd love to see someone trying to decide which shifter to grab there though ;D it would be a pain to remember which combo is which gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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