Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 Hello Guys Well I in the market for some 75 pounders for my MPI. I was looking through Summit racing and I ran into these Holly Injectors. The thing is They sell them EA for $85.00 They sell the set of 8 for $596 thats $75.00ea and $10.00 less ea. So you will save $40.00 on the set. So I will need ONE Lucky person to go 50/50 with me on the set of 8 Injectors. We will split to total BILL 50/50 and I will ship your injectors to you for FREE. Any takers PLEASE e-mail me @ oscardortega@yahoo.com The SOONER the BETTER ! The sale ends on July 31st. So HURRY and let me know BEFORE THEN. Thanks Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest4Power Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 damn, i already have some holley 75lb'ers. but i got my set of 4 for $250 ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 Were did you get them from at $62.00ea ? I looked all over the place and $75.00 was the cheapest I found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89onaquest Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 damn, i already have some holley 75lb'ers. Â but i got my set of 4 for $250 ;D was it from that GN site? I used to have that page, but lost it somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 damn, i already have some holley 75lb'ers. Â but i got my set of 4 for $250 ;D Are those DELPHI injectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Come on Superquest... Spill the beans... ;D Were did you get them for that price ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 if you recieve emails from summit you get an extra 10% off your total order until the end of july. that puts them at 67 buckaroos a piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 I just checked my other e-email account and I did have an e-mail from Summit and YES they will be that low BUT.... I have YET to find a 50/50 Partner to go with me on these... I cant believe I will end up paying RETAIL for these. Just wait, the SECOND I buy them at FULL Price someone will come along and say "Hey I am interested" Oh well.... I'll keep trying... I have a few more days Thanks Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 i wish i had the cash man but the timing is bad for me. im sure if you had the cash to buy them you could post them on here or ebay someone would buy them for 70 bucks a piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Aren't they back-ordered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 I'm running the Delphi 75lb injectors since February without any issues. $250 for the set. Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest4Power Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 i've got holley's. got'em on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 They ARE backordered BUT you can still order them and get the discount ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Heeey..... Well I have never heard of the "Delphi" brand of Injectors so can anyone bouch for them ? Are they as good as Holly, MSD,ect. ? I mean PRICE is GOOD but if quality is NOT there then price means nothing. ANY imput will be appreciated Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 No personal experience, but I do know that Delphi makes top quality electronic components. Â Lots of OEM injectors are made by Delphi, so I wouldn't expect longevity to be a problem, and they ARE flow matched, what more could you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 If I am not mistaken ?? AC Delco electronics division broke off and is now Delphi. I know a lot of GN guys run them. There known to be a budget priced injector similar to the Holleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted July 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Well Fiiiine ! I'll buy the delphi's..... There you're HAPPY NOW ? ;D No really guys thanks for your imput on this. I appreciate it. Oscar Well gotto go spend some money on something I dont REALLY need and for something that I wont get to it for a while..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89onaquest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 but for 220 you can't complain. ;D see even the new guy comes up with some good info ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 89onaquest--That is a GREAT lead! I'll be getting a set too. Now I'm wondering if the siemens ones are any better than Delphi...They're 5 bucks more each...Dang it! Why can't I just leave well enough alone, have to go exploring the site and finding other options... It looks like siemens might be pintle type, guess It's research time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Well here's what I found out: It appears that Holley and MSD injectors are actually made by Delphi-Which is the same as Rochester. Siemens injectors use a "Radius Rod" design according to Russ Collins (of RC injectors). I haven't been able to find anything more descriptive than that... I just ordered the siemens injectors because from the vague ifno I could find, it sounds like they have a tighter spray pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar_the_Grouch Posted August 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 First of "Onaquest" THANKS AGAIN for the Hook Up on the lead on the Injectors. I just ordered the siemens injectors because from the vague ifno I could find, it sounds like they have a tighter spray pattern. OK I may be a lil bit confused or just have a "Brain Fart" at the moment BUT WHY will a TIGHT Spray pattern be BETTER than a WIDER one ? The way I THINK it works.... WIDE Spray Pattern better AND MORE area coverage to attomise Fuel NARROW Pattern will concentrate the pattern to a more DIRECT area. So if anyone can clarify this for ME I'll appreciate it. NOT that I REALLY need this information BUT just curiosity ! Thanks Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeaston Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Well, it's definately debatable, but with multi-point injection, the injector is (should be) pointing straight at the back of the intake valve. If the injector just blows out a "fog" of finely atomized fuel, a considerable amount will come in contact with the port walls, and some of it will condense there and not mix well with the airstream. With a tighter cone angle(aven if it's not atomized as well) the spray either goes directly into the very hot combustion chamber and vaporizes, or it hits the back of the very hot intake valve and vaporizes, then is drawn in when the valve opens. Like I said, it's debatable and only lots of experimentation would reveal whether or not it makes a difference. The biggest advantage would come with finely tuned sequential injection, timing the pulse to always hit the intake valve just before it opens. That's how IRL(indy) cars do it. Their injectors do not atomize the fuel AT ALL, just squirt a jet of gas at the valve at just the right time... With TBI on the other hand, you do need a wide cone angle and good atomization because the airstream has to mix with and carry the fuel all the way from the TB to the port, and a spray would just end up in a pool on the manifold floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89onaquest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 From what I have dealt with.... there are 2 differant types of injectors... Pintle- Straight shot. Roughly a 20* pattern Non Pintle- Fan Style. Roughly 40+* pattern. The injector style, as with many other things depends on the engine type. N/A non pintles will show better fuel distrib/atomization. Boosted engines, DEPENDING ON LEVEL OF PSI will also benifit from fan style injectors. Typicially, high PSI 15-18+) will actually work better with fan types. The shear force of flow (velocity) will pull the fuel into a 80% mix right in the intake tube. Low boost (5-15) CAN see better performance from Pintle - Straight shooters. IF YOU CAN GET THEM POINTED AT THE VALVE. Alot of this is dependent on injector placement. Looking at the heads, and valve placement on the 2.6, it will be best to offset the injector about 20-30* to the right (twoards the firewall) and not on the top of the intake tube. This brings its own problems, fuel rail design. BUT, I will be willing to bet, that if it were done like that, with pintle injectors. It will hit the intake shaft every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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