Wally Walt Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Ok i had my car finally started to the point were it stayed running. let it run for a minute then shut it down so i could add power steering fluid because it had none in it. Then when i tried to start it again to go for a test drive it wouldn't start. I can jump the fuel pump and it runs everytime with enough power going to it. But that gives me no spark? So i checked the search on here and read alot and checked everything but the relay its self. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on what it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 i would try changing the relay first, also check the connection on the fuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 If you have power to the distributor and the ignitor and the coil and the distributor turns and there's no spark then either one of the wires to the distributor are broken or the ignitor is dead or isn't grounded. The ground for the ignitor and the shielded ground for the ignition signal are fastened under one of the mounting bolts/screws for the ignitor. If you have a plastic ignitor, maybe it just died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAinsworth Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 This has nothing to do with the running issue, but you don't use power steering fluid in these cars. The power steering uses ATF.Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Walt Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Well thank you all ill try everyhting and ill change out the power steering fluid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 You have spark? There's two tach signals from the coil and one has nothing to do with the other. The ECU tach signal is the blue wire going into the harness and it should be on the - terminal. The dash tack comes through a resistor so the tach doesn't fry and its that little metal thing with a black wire and a white wire from it, the black wire goes to the coil - terminal and the white wire plugs into a wire in the harness with a square plug. That other little black box on the coil isn't necessary but it can't be wired up wrong either, the blue wire from it goes to the the + terminal and the black wire from it grounds on the engine. If you have a plastic ignitor, it may be dead. It might work one minute then not the next or it half work and you might be it to start then run like crap or just die. The power to the fuel pump is direct as long as the relay is closed and it will be in the start position of the ignition switch and if the ECU gets a tach signal AND the ECU gets power to it through the ECI fuse link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Walt Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well i dont know where to get another plastic ignitor and i have to move soon so if thats the proble, someone can buy my car and deal with it for cheap and have a nice car im done with these cars but thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbrad511 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Tap on that ignitor with the handle of a screwdriver. Sometimes they'll fire again with that. Surely won't last, but it'll tell you if that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Walt Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Ill have to try that i wish the harness was the same so i could try one that is from a running car but its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 the FSm gives about 3 tests fort he igniter for no spark,,theign system is one of the simplest parts on the car ,,should be no proble pin pointing the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Walt Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 fsm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOSTED88tsi Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 factory service manual can be found here www.starquestgarage.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prototype78 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Hi...sorry but the same thing happened to mine...I was wondering where u buy this fuel pump relays???any part number?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Walt Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Ok i have fuel i have spark just wont start so the metel box died? i beat on it a bit while a friend was trying to start it and nothing battery is good and checked for fuel it pumps fine and sparks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Ok i have fuel i have spark just wont start so the metel box died? i beat on it a bit while a friend was trying to start it and nothing battery is good and checked for fuel it pumps fine and sparks greatis your car a 88-89? if not you have a converted harness, metal ignitors are 88-89so you have spark on the plug wires, what about through the plugs? have you pulled any and made sure they wernt fouled? have you ever had the distributor cap off?or distributor out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 did you visually verify the injector is actually firing? Swap injector plugs momentarily and see if it cranks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Walt Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yes i made sure the injectors were firing and the spark plugs them selfs are brand new put in just to check for spark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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