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#1 Corey

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 11:38 PM

I looked through projectzerog, and didnt find what i was looking for.

After some googling, i found out that 4g63's came wideblock, what cars are they in though? NA 4g63s? So like, 1g na talons?

IDK..someone help.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:45 AM

View PostCorey, on 20 July 2010 - 11:38 PM, said:

I looked through projectzerog, and didnt find what i was looking for.

After some googling, i found out that 4g63's came wideblock, what cars are they in though? NA 4g63s? So like, 1g na talons?

IDK..someone help.

wideblock would be rwd only and I believe automatic only
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 06:41 AM

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 07:07 AM

Mighty Max, D50, Ram50.  2.0L (engine code g63b) Automatic only.  Measure lower bellhousing bolts to be sure, 13.25 inches center to center.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 07:18 AM

View PostMainstreaM, on 21 July 2010 - 07:07 AM, said:

Mighty Max, D50, Ram50.  2.0L (engine code g63b) Automatic only.  Measure lower bellhousing bolts to be sure, 13.25 inches center to center.

Thanks for asking an intelligent question after looking for the answer yourself. <--not sarcasm.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:42 AM

Is it possible for me to use a starquest trans, as long as im using a wideblock 4g63? Im aware that the starquest trans go after about what, 400ft lbs? i wont be making quite that, so i think im good. ha.

Also, if i could use the starquest trans, what flywheel/clutch would be necessary?

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:44 AM

One more question, are the g63b the same as a 4g63 then? I mean, i see there both 2.0 liters. Im assuming different engine code, means there is some difference? Do they have the same bulletproof bottom end?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:51 PM

View PostCorey, on 21 July 2010 - 10:42 AM, said:

Is it possible for me to use a starquest trans, as long as im using a wideblock 4g63? Im aware that the starquest trans go after about what, 400ft lbs? i wont be making quite that, so i think im good. ha.

Also, if i could use the starquest trans, what flywheel/clutch would be necessary?

Thanks mainstream:thumbsup:

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One more question, are the g63b the same as a 4g63 then? I mean, i see there both 2.0 liters. Im assuming different engine code, means there is some difference? Do they have the same bulletproof bottom end?

Difference G63B=SOHC RWD 4G63=DOHC FWD/AWD  Rods, Crank, and Block (except the wide pattern) is the same.  Get some stronger pistons and you'll be good to go.

All info assumes you have a 6 Bolt G63B, and as far as I know that's all we got.  G64B was the only engine offered 90 up and they were all wideblock.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 07:51 PM

Now the real question, do i go g63b or g64b?

That extra torque would be nice...
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:05 PM

Which ever one you can find easier or cheaper.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:29 PM

So the 4g63 and 4g63b can swap pistons and rods no problem? Then you could use a 6 bolt starion flywheel and trans?
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:34 PM

View PostScotty Dont, on 22 July 2010 - 08:29 PM, said:

So the 4g63 and 4g63b can swap pistons and rods no problem? Then you could use a 6 bolt starion flywheel and trans?

Yes and yes.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 11:08 PM

I got a good running 4g64 complete in a rusty truck ill be willing to part with,pm me some reasonable offers,might be able to meet halfway.Its still in the truck but i can pull it no problem
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:21 PM

sorry for bumping an old thread, but im getting back into swap fever, and i was just searching through projectzerog, and according to this http://projectzerog....i_engines.shtml , the starion g54b's are narrowblock...So im confused? I thought they were wide block, so only wide block 4g63's(g63b) and wide block 4g64's(g64b) would bolt up to starion transmissions.

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:32 PM

g54bs in the quest are wideblock.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:38 PM

okay.

What Mounts do you use for a 4g6x swap?

Two drivers side, or two passenger side mounts?
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:16 AM

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

Got my hands on 1991 eagle talon awd auto.  Will that bolt up to starion stock tranny

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:17 PM

No, the 4g63 bottom end is narrowblock and the starion tranny is for a wideblock.

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