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[Bill Hincher]

I was asked to build some  motor mounts for the 4G63 in the Conquest

I put a dummy 4G63 engine with an R 154 trans in place to check how it all fit



I re used the stock rear crossmamber with the toyota mount




I wanted to be sure to clear the first gen CAS system


I wanted to find the shifter location and fix that


  I know a lot of guys re used stock motor mounts but that dont make it the right set up

You have to measure the offset of the engine and find what is required to square up the system


after the measuring system is centered you can clearly see the offset at the rear

then the offset goes the other way at the trans output shaft





  i got to square the engine not only up and down but also sideways and the angle of the engine , so there is no twist, then the mounts can be built

Edited by Bill Hincher, 22 December 2010 - 05:26 PM.

[thagremlin]

Wow nice an actual kit being made. Now only if you could do that for a 1jz/2jz engine with r154.

[freebird]

In that last pic with the center of the crank shaft being measured.
What measurement from the face of the wheel hub to the core support do you have for the center?
This seems to be the best way to find center but I dont have these tools.
I just have string and chalk....or marker.

Did you happen to save any useable measurements on a notepad?
Even back at the firewall, trans tunnel shifter location.
Anything we can take note of that might help a man with no tools...lol
I know my swaps are nice and straight but it is nice to see if there could be a comparison.

[importwarrior]

Can  not wait to see the end product!!!!!!!!

Edited by importwarrior, 02 November 2010 - 04:13 PM.

[Bill Hincher]

 freebird, on 02 November 2010 - 03:12 PM, said:

In that last pic with the center of the crank shaft being measured.
What measurement from the face of the wheel hub to the core support do you have for the center?
This seems to be the best way to find center but I dont have these tools.
I just have string and chalk....or marker.

Did you happen to save any useable measurements on a notepad?
Even back at the firewall, trans tunnel shifter location.
Anything we can take note of that might help a man with no tools...lol
I know my swaps are nice and straight but it is nice to see if there could be a comparison.

you buy the right book with the demensions so you can set your scale




  you can get them at any body shop supply house

[freebird]

Awesome! never seen one before.

I have a copy of the frame chart saved
from kabamus garage site under the "best to use what you got first" link

http://www.kabamus.c...dex-frame1.html


http://www.kabamus.c...dex-frame1.html

But sometimes people get different #'s it's always cool to share #'s.

[Bill Hincher]

 freebird, on 02 November 2010 - 06:31 PM, said:

Awesome! never seen one before.

But sometimes people get different #'s it's always cool to share #'s.

   even a BLIND squirrel finds NUTS once  in a while

[freebird]

mmmm...nuts are everywhere but I keep chewing on pooo!

[Convette]

 Bill Hincher, on 02 November 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

you buy the right book with the demensions so you can set your scale




  you can get them at any body shop supply house

Damn. That woulda came in handy.  Your a genius Bill.

[Bill Hincher]

 idriftjunk, on 03 November 2010 - 11:46 AM, said:

Damn. That woulda came in handy.  Your a genius Bill.

  I'm liscensed but not practicing, right now I am in rehab

[Bill Hincher]

Edited by Bill Hincher, 22 December 2010 - 05:27 PM.

[thagremlin]

Would that mount kit fit a 2jz/1jz motor? How/where do you mount them?

Oh yea how much does that dimensions manual cost?

Edited by thagremlin, 08 November 2010 - 12:57 PM.

[importwarrior]

any updates?  

[Bill Hincher]

after I got pretty close to where it should be located, I built a little stronger mount using an angle iron and threaded rod so I could tilt the engine
    
you can clearly see what the problem was with the original engine mounts, the passenger side was so close it couldnt use the rubber cushion
    
just so we are all on the same page, this is located 2 inches ahead of the original location
    
      
I wanted a 2 degree slant towards the passenger side, so the engine tilts left
    

after measuring the drop in the driveline I found 1 to 2 degree was all I wanted in a tilt backwards

Edited by Bill Hincher, 22 December 2010 - 05:28 PM.

[importwarrior]

Looking great so far. what transmission are you ging to be using?
and will this be the same mount used for the 2.4 wide block?

Thanks bill nice work.

[BrazilBoy]

Can't wait for the end result..................

[SOTTY]

Always enjoy reading your threads Bill , excellent innovative work as always.

[Bill Hincher]

  

Edited by Bill Hincher, 22 December 2010 - 05:29 PM.

[Bill Hincher]

 thagremlin, on 08 November 2010 - 12:53 PM, said:

Would that mount kit fit a 2jz/1jz motor? How/where do you mount them?

Oh yea how much does that dimensions manual cost?

  the manuals cost a couple hundred for every year model, so you gotta buy one every year

[Bill Hincher]

 importwarrior, on 20 December 2010 - 09:10 AM, said:

Looking great so far. what transmission are you ging to be using?
and will this be the same mount used for the 2.4 wide block?

Thanks bill nice work.

  Its the R 154 Toyota Supra Turbo trans mounted to a 4G63 narrow block