motor mounts and shifter relocaters

[Bill Hincher]

I was asked to build some motor mounts for the 4G63 in the Conquest

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormounts1.jpg

I put a dummy 4G63 engine with an R 154 trans in place to check how it all fit

 

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I re used the stock rear crossmamber with the toyota mount

 

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I wanted to be sure to clear the first gen CAS system

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I wanted to find the shifter location and fix that

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I know a lot of guys re used stock motor mounts but that dont make it the right set up

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormounts11.jpg

You have to measure the offset of the engine and find what is required to square up the system

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after the measuring system is centered you can clearly see the offset at the rear

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then the offset goes the other way at the trans output shaft

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i got to square the engine not only up and down but also sideways and the angle of the engine , so there is no twist, then the mounts can be built

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormounts20.jpg

Edited December 22, 2010 by Bill Hincher

[thagremlin]

Wow nice an actual kit being made. Now only if you could do that for a 1jz/2jz engine with r154.

[freebird]

In that last pic with the center of the crank shaft being measured.

What measurement from the face of the wheel hub to the core support do you have for the center?

This seems to be the best way to find center but I dont have these tools.

I just have string and chalk....or marker.

 

Did you happen to save any useable measurements on a notepad?

Even back at the firewall, trans tunnel shifter location.

Anything we can take note of that might help a man with no tools...lol

I know my swaps are nice and straight but it is nice to see if there could be a comparison.

[importwarrior]

Can not wait to see the end product!!!!!!!! Edited November 2, 2010 by importwarrior

[Bill Hincher]

In that last pic with the center of the crank shaft being measured.

What measurement from the face of the wheel hub to the core support do you have for the center?

This seems to be the best way to find center but I dont have these tools.

I just have string and chalk....or marker.

 

Did you happen to save any useable measurements on a notepad?

Even back at the firewall, trans tunnel shifter location.

Anything we can take note of that might help a man with no tools...lol

I know my swaps are nice and straight but it is nice to see if there could be a comparison.

you buy the right book with the demensions so you can set your scale

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/book.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/book1.jpg

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you can get them at any body shop supply house

[freebird]

Awesome! never seen one before.

 

I have a copy of the frame chart saved

from kabamus garage site under the "best to use what you got first" link

 

http://www.kabamus.com/index-frame1.html

 

 

http://www.kabamus.com/index-frame1.html

 

But sometimes people get different #'s it's always cool to share #'s.

[Bill Hincher]

Awesome! never seen one before.

 

But sometimes people get different #'s it's always cool to share #'s.

 

even a BLIND squirrel finds NUTS once in a while

[freebird]

mmmm...nuts are everywhere but I keep chewing on pooo!

[Convette]

you buy the right book with the demensions so you can set your scale

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/book.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/book1.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/book2.jpg

 

you can get them at any body shop supply house

 

Damn. That woulda came in handy. Your a genius Bill.

[Bill Hincher]

Damn. That woulda came in handy. Your a genius Bill.

 

 

I'm liscensed but not practicing, right now I am in rehab

[Bill Hincher]

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Edited December 22, 2010 by Bill Hincher

[thagremlin]

Would that mount kit fit a 2jz/1jz motor? How/where do you mount them?

 

Oh yea how much does that dimensions manual cost?

Edited November 8, 2010 by thagremlin

[importwarrior]

any updates?

[Bill Hincher]

after I got pretty close to where it should be located, I built a little stronger mount using an angle iron and threaded rod so I could tilt the engine

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormount10.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormount11.jpg

you can clearly see what the problem was with the original engine mounts, the passenger side was so close it couldnt use the rubber cushion

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormount16.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/motormount18.jpg

just so we are all on the same page, this is located 2 inches ahead of the original location

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I wanted a 2 degree slant towards the passenger side, so the engine tilts left

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after measuring the drop in the driveline I found 1 to 2 degree was all I wanted in a tilt backwards

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Edited December 22, 2010 by Bill Hincher

[importwarrior]

Looking great so far. what transmission are you ging to be using?

and will this be the same mount used for the 2.4 wide block?

 

Thanks bill nice work.

[BrazilBoy]

Can't wait for the end result..................

[SOTTY]

Always enjoy reading your threads Bill , excellent innovative work as always.

[Bill Hincher]

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Edited December 22, 2010 by Bill Hincher

[Bill Hincher]

Would that mount kit fit a 2jz/1jz motor? How/where do you mount them?

 

Oh yea how much does that dimensions manual cost?

 

the manuals cost a couple hundred for every year model, so you gotta buy one every year

[Bill Hincher]

Looking great so far. what transmission are you ging to be using?

and will this be the same mount used for the 2.4 wide block?

 

Thanks bill nice work.

Its the R 154 Toyota Supra Turbo trans mounted to a 4G63 narrow block

[Bill Hincher]

Always enjoy reading your threads Bill , excellent innovative work as always.

 

I will be looking you up next time I get to Vagas!

[spoolinturbo]

and ill be looking you up when i get back bill!!

[Bill Hincher]

This applies to all the Toyota transmissions, this just happens to be an R 154 but it will work on the W series just as easy that long rod with the finger at the end of it is the key to building the remote shifter that is low enough to fit under the trans tunnel and move the shifter back as far as I wanted

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter.jpg

you can see here how the finger fits in the three shiftshafts to move the R 154 through all the different gear selections

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter11.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter14.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter13.jpg

 

 

at the other end of the shaft away from the finger end I built this recepter at an angle in an attempt to keep the shaft low, I built this as a starter project, I will take the numbers I found here and continue to lower it further

I built a couple pillar blocks and found the correct numbers to build the shift ratio for the sideways motion in the shifter, it was about 72%

 

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter37.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter33.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter35.jpg

 

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter36.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter15.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter16.jpg

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I cut away the rear housing so I could see the shift motion in all gears, it shift as smooth as silk >;o)

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Edited February 25, 2011 by Bill Hincher

[Bill Hincher]

I keep trying to mount the remote shifter as low as possible on top of the trans, I dont want as little obstruction as possible

 

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter38.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter41.jpg

 

 

I built a flange to mount the bridges accross and locate the new shifter rod, I keep moving peices back and forth, up and down trying to seek the lowest level and still maintain mechanical leverage

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter42.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter43.jpg

 

 

originaly I wanted to place a window here to see the pin go in place but I dont know if it would be an advantage to anyone

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[BOHO]

Bill,

 

That is way low..nice. I wonder why you need such an angle on the shift rod.? Is it for leverage?