Ryan_V Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 http://www.bellengineering.net/ 3.5" core fit's stock location and pipes,can be modified for mpi users w/ whatever size inlet/outlet needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Lazarek Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 28x10.5x3.5" spearco core. Getting a bigger one though. DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquest351 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 The intercooler I got made did go on Ryan's car as a testbed. Here are the pics of it... http://www.motion-dynamics.net/products/St...ntercoolers.asp Notice the direction of the intercooler has been corrected. THis helps both flow and cooling efficiency. Ryan has never dyno'd his car to find out the difference though. LOL Laters, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_V Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 I made the initial investment, so you guys can pay to dyno it. Especially after the surprise 65 dollar add-on  that or wait til I think the car's ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_insanity Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 is our stock intercllolers not up to par ? i havent realized before that ours wasnt. also, how much turbo is our i/c good for? i was kicking around a t3/t4. do i need to upgrade i/c's for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_ss Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 It all depends on what you want from your car. I would say that a t3/t4 might be pushing the boundaries of our stock intercooler, only because the flow characteristics aren't that great(end tank design). I upgraded because I am in the process of the MPI conversion and just figured I'd get it out of the way.... I honestly don't know what the limits/boundaries are on the stock intercooler, but I think it's safe to say that the stock one can go a far way..... Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted October 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 I'm debating between these two and would like to hear you guys opinions on each. 1st: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=7926904345&rd=1#ebayphotohosting 2nd: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...116928&rd=1 2nd one is the one I'm leaning towards, core is 2.5" longer, 2.5 endtanks and its bar and plate, better quality etc etc. To you guys running 28" and bigger, where in the hell are you mounting it? My car is too low to go below the bumper (since it wouldn't fit between) so I can't see how you guys are doing it. On my '92 dsm I just removed my front bumper (bumper cap mounts to frame!) and that made it really easy. HELP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_ss Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 If I remember correctly, my intercooler was 24x10x3 bar and plate design, 2.5"inlet/outlet, spearco core. I paid 425 shipped to my house from ebay's top intercooler seller, boost coolers, email them I'm sure they have more in that configuration if you are looking to go that way. It fits perfectly inbetween the frame rails, and sits about 2-3" behind the front bumper almost on the support brace that is infront of the radiator and condenser..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 $200 bucks brand new from eBay. Megan Racing. 28.5x11.75x3" i cut the bumper and the supports, only a 1/4 inch on the bottom, then re-welded the cuts. wish i could show you a picture i have, but i cant figure out how to post a picture, help with this sombody, im on a Mac so life is so much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Lazarek Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 I have a new design I am workin on (if you remember for my last post my current setup does not flow enough). It's a HUGE core, 6"x10"x30" and flows top to bottom instead of side to side and flows about 1764cfm. Should work very nicely with the front end I have in the works. Maybe this summer I will actually have a running quest and bring it to the track, dyno. DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88TSI_Rob Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I figured I'd post some pics of what I came up with. I got a 1998 Isuzu NPR IC made by Tokyo Radiators. The core dimensions are: 17 x 14.5 x 2 and the largest actual dimensions are: 29.5 x 17 x 6.5. And the outlets are 2.75" (that's the OD). http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjY0MDY4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpghttp://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjY0MDY5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpg I've got some bent fins to work on, but it appears that it will work perfectly for an MPI setup. The outlets are pointed right at the intake/turbo which should allow for very direct piping. I'll be sure to post more pics as I install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainstreaM Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Thats what I've got. Its hooj. Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudabnu Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Is bigger better? How much harder does the turbo have to work to "fill" up the extra space of the bigger intercooler? Does it create more lag? I'm still looking for a bigger one, But alot of DSM guys that run starion intercoolers are still doing some impressive times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88TSI_Rob Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Thats what I've got. Â Its hooj. Kane Have you installed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zer0fist Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 well Joe is thinking of getting this one here, or similar to it... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...;category=33742 24X12X3 that is earmarked for this winter. I have one kinda like that (size), it just showed up last Saturday. It came polished, and the inlet/outlet is 3in dia I got it from ebay. the seller was "xs-power-dot-com" they have a web site to. they make ALOT of stuff from Stainless, alot of it looks real nice too here is an auction for one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...256608&rd=1 Trust me guys, this one is top notch, and it you play eBay right you can get it for cheep. I got mine for 212.01 but i've seen um go for 170.00 (the 1 cent gets um every time ^_^' hee hee) I have the TEP/Spearco intercooler but this new one is replacing it. I was planing to put the TEP IC in my Galant GSX, but im fielding offers on it . if any ones interested shoot me a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Is the 600mm dimension from end tank to end tank or just the finned area? Please confirm which it is and provide the missing dimension. Thanks! I have one kinda like that (size),  it just showed up last Saturday.  It came polished,  and the inlet/outlet is 3in dia  I got it from ebay.  the seller was "xs-power-dot-com"  they have a web site to.  they make ALOT of stuff from Stainless,  alot of it looks real nice too here is an auction for one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...256608&rd=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainstreaM Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Have you installed it? Nope not yet. Workin on my g64b hybrid now. Savin money for machine work. All in due time gentlemen, all in due time. Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zer0fist Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Is the 600mm dimension from end tank to end tank or just the finned area? Please confirm which it is and provide the missing dimension. Thanks! The core is 24 x 11.5 x 3 inch i guessing the 600mm is the core only. my box is labled "720mm intercooler" any one want to do the math? i believe 65mm is 3 inches when i get off work today i'll messure it from tank to tank and post the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_ss Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 76.2mm is 3 inches Inlet/Outlet/Width 600mm is 23.6 inches Core 720mm is 28.3 inches Overall lenght (won't fit between frame rails without them being modded.) 300mm is 11.8 inches.... Height For anyone that wanted the math done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siance Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 If you count the inlets, it's prolly like 30in intank to intank. Yep he's right it won't fit with out cutting.....I can't wait to see you install it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_insanity Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 while you guys are talking about i.c's ive got a i/c from a ford powerstroke diesel, f-350 . talk about huge. i was gonna just post it up for sale but you guys might find a better use for it than the general sq public. dont remember the dimensions but can get them. i do know its 3" in and out and is what looks like cast aluminum endtanks. then again may just be rough aluminum. anyone interested send me a p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_ss Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 You'd have to do some major modding to get a powerstroke diesel intercooler on the front of our cars, let alone anywhere on our cars...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_insanity Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 i was thinking more like it could be cut down to fit somewhich way. i dont know how this works but im guessing it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Between the Ford powerstroke intercooler having virtually no end tank and being only 2" thick hardly qualifies it as a good candidate for a SQ mod. You're better off selling it and spending money on an 'off the shelf' IC that fits better. Here's a link to a Ford IC in question: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...;category=33742 i was thinking more like it could be cut down to fit somewhich way. Â i dont know how this works but im guessing it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_V Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Is bigger better? well it depends, if you are making 400 500 600 or 1000hp like some supra then you'd need as big as possible, most people here aren't making that kinda of power though Here's how the BELL fit's. I like it because they engineered it to support 500+hp and it fit's like stock and the stock intercooler hoses. You can even see that the power steering cooler line has been thought about and given "room" http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/202062/KFOPV-000_0921.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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