Technology Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, I don't want to over estimate, I'd rather underestimate. At 26 lbs with the magna, it made 433whp. 15 HP per psi would put it right around 400 as is. It feels fast, but I don't want to say it's at 400 yet because I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Does it feel faster with the Cannon versus the Magna? I think you can make it to 500 sometime soon=) Maybe you'll come back from China with a few goodies (hopefully ones that were imported from Japan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I don't know, I was running more boost with the magna. The clutch needs to be broken in more, but it wasn't slipping last night. The 660's will never do 500whp, but I think the manifold will help alot. I also don't know if it was the ultra cold air, or the new intake, but the boost was much higher than it should have been. It doesn't matter though since fuel is good. I'll let ya know after wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfatty Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Are you gonna leave the 660s in for tuning on Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yep. Gotta break in the clutch with them, any more and it might make "TMP" for the clutch. It will need a t56 and everything with that for later. If it was a perfect world, I'd have some big injectors and nice rods and a good trans, and I think 600 isn't out of the question at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfatty Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Ok cool! Cant wait to see the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag-O-Chips Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Jam out with the clam out dude! I wanna see some numbers above 447 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 It's so sad that my clutch gave out last fall. 500 bucks... Should have spent the big dollars on the T56 swap when I had a chance. Oh well. I'll come back text time with a briefcase of money. No expense spared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Was out again tonight for some more tuning. We turned the boost controller to zero, so it should be wastegate pressure (17psi) but it was making 20lbs. So, my minimum boost at WOT is 20, haha. Basically everything we did was take more fuel out. It's just rich up top. Smoothed the map and worked on getting AFR's right. The difference between the fuel map for the old manifold and this one is very interesting. There are three major "steps" with the magna, and so far, this one is flat accross to top. Interesting. Got it idling lower with the BIS screw, and now it starts in the cold. Just needed more gas during cranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATBROKE313 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Did it get tuned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Welp, here is what I got today, with "660cc" injectors. They were making power like 1000's. I was running higher fuel pressure, but apparently, it shouldn't be quite so awesome. Either they are larger than 660, or the big pump just that much more volume to go with the pressure. Oh well! Started off with the first pull making 350 at 18psi:http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs790.ash1/168039_610062379580_163906158_34736487_7584218_n.jpgAnd final numbers for today with the limit of the clutch at the forefront of my conscience.http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/529/medium/DSC03317.JPGhttp://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/529/medium/DSC03318.JPGhttp://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/529/medium/DSC03320.JPG And here is 26 psi with the new manifold, 26psi with the old manifold, and 29 psi with the new manifold.http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/data/529/medium/DSC03319.JPG It's an improvement of about 15-20whp over the old manifold, and the curve is mega. Torque is less, but flatter and stays higher longer. With timing up where it should be, I wouldn't doubt it would be as much as 30-40whp higher than where it is. It will make 500 at 30psi no problem. But were talking some serious clutch slipping action there. I was surprised it was holding as much as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATBROKE313 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Very nice,can't belive those injectors and the ramp looks nice and clean Edited January 27, 2011 by FLATBROKE313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I know, it's crazy how they were making power. Only 95% duty cycle too, it would have gotten really close to 500 with them, haha. And it's on junky E70 too, so not even the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 well done, the torque numbers are relative to the slow turbine response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Or the short runners. Since torque was way higher with tht magna. But torque breaks things, so I don't want it. Anyway, the car is faster now than before. It was spinning the tires in 4th tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentkilla Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 That's pretty nice bro. Good work, you are pretty patient I give that ya. Very nice numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vettekiller593 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Damn that's some good numbers. Should be 500 soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemo Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Very nice. What kind of final Timing are you running with the e70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Or the short runners. Since torque was way higher with tht magna. Yeah but the EIP has produced huge torque numbers many times before. EIPQuest & Heefner for exampleProlly a mix of the lag/runners/292 But torque breaks things, so I don't want it. yep Edited January 27, 2011 by phinko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 That's pretty nice bro. Good work, you are pretty patient I give that ya. Very nice numbersThanks. I could have upgraded the clutch and kept the magna, but I still have that conquest owner's desire to be different somehow. So that's why I went with the eip. It will all come together though, though it may still be a few more years. No problem though. Life happens. Damn that's some good numbers. Should be 500 soon!I know. I could have pushed it today, but a solid 450 is pretty good, plus I can't even use it! Very nice. What kind of final Timing are you running with the e70?It's so funny with the timing. I'll try to make a little chart here: _______5900rpm___6300rpm24psi__16 deg____15 deg27psi__13.6 deg___12.5 deg30psi__7.96 deg___6.91 deg So, as you can see, it was dropping off fast. With no knock, we could have brought those 27, and even 30psi lines up to nearly 16 degrees and gotten some major gains. I kind of wish I had, but after getting it on the street, it's pointless to even get on it in 4th off boost then let it rev up, since it'll fricassee the clutch. Yeah but the EIP has produced huge torque numbers many times before. EIPQuest & Heefner for exampleProlly a mix of the lag/runners/292 yep Those guys probably had some small turbines that didn't make power up top I am going to wring this little billet turbo out when I get the driveline sorted so I want a little flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Phil Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Those guys probably had some small turbines that didn't make power up top So you agree its the lag. Thats some rediculously low timing btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) The lag doesn't matter. When I shift, I'm back to max torque and power. Edited January 27, 2011 by Technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag-O-Chips Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aba16vt Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) very cool! great looking numbers! wheres the video at???? Edited January 28, 2011 by aba16vt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemo Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Wow.. why so low on the timing? I would have thought one of the main benifits of the alcohol would be the ability to run more agressive timing. I was really expecting to see something in the 25-30 deg at high boost. Have you tried more timing or just started really conservative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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