XCIRracer Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 http://www.xclusivecustomimports.com/image...led_448x336.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smog Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 looks like oil filter clearance problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotrodTSi Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 looks like oil filter clearance problems? That's what I was thinking. With the oil cooler adapter plate and the filter installed, the #1 tube would have to loop around the bottom to stay equal length. Not to mention the fun of changing filters. I'm not hating, but it looks like a tight fit. After installing the other tube, can you take pics with the oil adapter and filter in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Like I said we have to make a few changes, but the problem were having is the true equal length and being able to clear the oil filter and engine mount. But with these pics you can at least see some progress. If it comes down to it, would you guys rather relocate the oil filter or have true equal length . Hit me back with your opinions. Well hopefully have more pics up tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 The oil cooler will only cool so much, so with that design, filter relocation is a must along with a heat shield for the adapter. The design doesn't appear to flow very well though the dyno will reveal all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashsaudio Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Looks really nice. But I think it would not flow as good as you can get it. I read up some info that you want alot less bends and thats alot of bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Oh It'l flow good, but you are right, the less amount of bends the better. But at the same token, if its equal lenth with the right placement on the collector each individual chamber will actually be sucking the next runner, thats why placement in the collector and equal length is so important! Trust me, this is one of the hardest manifolds weve ever done too, the angle and obstacles make it a complain, but were overcoming most of it. When we are done this baby is gonna rock! Pics tomorrow night on the revamp. Check yall later,Robb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smog Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 im not sure equal length is worth that much, just going a design like that would be good enough, definately wanna keep my stock location on the oil filter and what not, I'd say sacrifice 100% equal length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashsaudio Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 im not sure equal length is worth that much, just going a design like that would be good enough, definately wanna keep my stock location on the oil filter and what not, I'd say sacrifice 100% equal length. If you want the best header out there for our car, equal length is inportant. So this is the best I've seen so far. But I'd rather keep the #'s down for length. Probably the max is 18" for me that header got more than that. Btw, XCIRACER, how long are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Aight guys Ive been bustin my arse on this one. Weve overcome all the obstacles from the first one. I actually started from scratch again and I dont think were gunna get mech better than this. Ill post finished product tomorrow after we weld er up. This is actually just tack welded for now. Pricing and all the other stuff Ill post later as well. This new welder we hired is really good but hes also expensive. FEEDBACK is always welcome since it was you guys that actually got this project started. http://www.xclusivecustomimports.com/image...led_384x288.JPG http://www.xclusivecustomimports.com/image...led_384x288.JPG http://www.xclusivecustomimports.com/image...led_384x288.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Also, anyone not interested in these full race tuned port manifolds will also have the option for a log style for a mere $250.00 they are easy as hell to make. Also keep in mind that we hand build all of our manifolds so flange options are easy as well as wastegate options. ( basically we can put on them whatever you need us to put on them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 thats 2nd design is much better. the tubes don't need to be that long. if it helps use these pics for reference. i have clearance up the wazoo in every direction even this big compressor housing. the turbo is at a prefect height for oil drain and hood clearance. http://home.earthlink.net/~antimpower/images/headers1.jpghttp://home.earthlink.net/~antimpower/images/headers2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 its welded and ready so get ready for the next ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Its welded and ready to be used and abused. However for some odd reason our website is down tonight so if you want to see the finished product then go to our website WWW.XCIR.com, go to online store, then go to turbo manifolds to see pics. I will try and put some finished pics up on here tomorrow for you. Hit us back with any feedback please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Here are some pics of the finished product. http://estore.websitepros.com/stores/76890...%20Manifold.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliConquestAlex Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 looks good, what about adding an external wastegate? any word on a final price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind_Drifter Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Looks really good. Im intrested in an external WG also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCIRracer Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 We wont put the external wastegate flanges on until we know what each individual is going to use, and where they want it placed. As far as pricing, I originally thought that we could build these things for about $350.00 for you guys and retail them for around 5-550 ( that just isnt possible), as it stands, this one cost us just under 400 to make, so the best I can do for the Starquest members is about $440 for the first five, and $500.00 for all the rest that follow. These are already on our website for $700.00 retail. I wish I could do better than that but the cost of stainless Steel is rising every day, and welding is costing me a fortune ( and thats an area we dont want to slack on ) Sorry. But look at it this way, other manifolds of this caliber usually run around a thousand bucks, so its really not a bad price. And more than likely, once we start seeing more and more results, they may even go up higher, but well see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_V Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Is the turbo going to sit too high and hit the hood? Have you checked for clearance issues? Does it place the turbo near stock location? Thanks Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashsaudio Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Is the turbo going to sit too high and hit the hood? Have you checked for clearance issues? Does it place the turbo near stock location? Thanks Ryan With the turbo I'd be using OOO yea. I'm glad i didn't wait on this because it would have wasted alot of time. Just say my runners about 1" away from my motor mount. So ya gonna need heat sheild there. and then i say about 1/2" away from the hood (not the braces but the actual sheet). I got lucky on that part. I will post pic of my manifold and its not equal length tho because i had to clear the oil filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artinist Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 a couple of things. the turbo flange is tilting toward the fender a bit too much and it could also move forward about 1" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashsaudio Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 a couple of things. the turbo flange is tilting toward the fender a bit too much and it could also move forward about 1" yea you're right. It may be okay for smaller turbos but the bigger ones will hit the shock tower. I'm glad I was thinking to put mine closer to the motor. I got like 1 1/2" of room between turbo and shock tower. But I love the manifold just too much on the price. I understand that SS is going up everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Is it still the 316 SS that you origionaly planned? or the 304 that your ebay auction states? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Starion-Con...ZWDVWQQtcZphoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_crush Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 if you could come up with a 4g63 rwd option i would prolly be interested. keep in mind (large turbos) for clearence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_crush Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 if you could come up with a 4g63 rwd option i would prolly be interested. keep in mind (large turbos) for clearence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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