Lizzord30 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Did you have the compressor wheel and turbine wheel balanced together?That's a must!Like I said before temporary fix, till i can get a new turbo. The back plate is already damaged and so is the turbine shaft..... my old turbine was damage worst and likely wouldn't come close to balancing, where this one is not damage in a way to effect its balance. It seams that to get the most out of this setup I will need to retard my cam timing a little or use the cam for higher rpm power. Wonder how much I should adjust the cam, maybe 2 or 3 degrees? Edited June 7, 2012 by Lizzord30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliConquestAlex Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 IMO, You're definitely taking a risk running the turbo like that. If the thing grenades, the engine could suck bits into it and you'd have much bigger problems than a broken turbo. I definitely wouldn't be boosting on a known damaged turbo. Idle tuning is probably ok for the short term, but driving around and boosting it to 14 psi is a bad idea. There are many garrett compressor and turbine wheels for sale on ebay and most turbo shops can balance the set. Just my 2 cents. You've invested a lot in the car and I'm sure you don't want to see something freak happen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 IMO, You're definitely taking a risk running the turbo like that. If the thing grenades, the engine could suck bits into it and you'd have much bigger problems than a broken turbo. I definitely wouldn't be boosting on a known damaged turbo. Idle tuning is probably ok for the short term, but driving around and boosting it to 14 psi is a bad idea. There are many garrett compressor and turbine wheels for sale on ebay and most turbo shops can balance the set. Just my 2 cents. You've invested a lot in the car and I'm sure you don't want to see something freak happen to it. Thanks for your opinion Once I have the money for that I will replace/rebuild/upgrade the turbo and if Rebuilt Will get it Balanced. Actually I am planning on finishing my split tang SS header and want to get a new split tang turbo to go with it. With a new header SS, add second WG(to keep true Split tang), and new turbo. Should be a nice upgrade to do in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Transmission..... died argh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 wow, you have tons of problems with that thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TainterRacing Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Motor was running great.....Tranny just did not like it LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) wow, you have tons of problems with that thing!Kind of inherent with a 24yr old 140k car that had owners that abused it..... And then adding twice the power.... Like example the front sway bar mounts and bushings where shot from someone trying to tow the car by the sway bar..... even tho the tow hooks are all their :| Edited June 12, 2012 by Lizzord30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yeah, I guess I should be happy that I don't have the problems you do, the only problem is I have other problems with it! lol. Good luck, I check back on this thread pretty often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Yea got a new(to me) transmission(auto 89) thanks to Lance! Hope to get it installed on Friday and hoping to get this going back on the road! maybe with the valve body mod already on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag-O-Chips Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I havent read the whole thread from day one, what turbo are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I havent read the whole thread from day one, what turbo are you running?I am running a Turbonics 60-1 Hifi with a stage 5 T3 exhaust side. My new setup spools the stage 5 as fast as my last one spooled the stage 3. Unfortnalty I still have tranmission issues, and starter also. The new transmission works decently in first 3 gears at first but as i drove it more it got worst, wouldnt go into 1st and od never worked. so mostly just a 2 speed lol 2 and 3rd. I think I have been having slipping almost the whole time on both trans, with exspetion to a short time on my first trans in 3rd. It would feel so much better in 3rd then in 2nd or first when it ever could get into it. So now my plan is yet again over the winter to get it going, rebuild the tranmission and change the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionbull Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 you will be surprised how fast it spools a straight T4.T3 is so 10yrs ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 you will be surprised how fast it spools a straight T4.T3 is so 10yrs ago.More like T series is 30 years ago lol Wish I had the money for a nice BB gt turbo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionbull Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 not t4 as in t seriesgt turbos come in t4 or t3 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 not t4 as in t seriesgt turbos come in t4 or t3 too.Well they have T4 Flang yes but not really the same turbo. And my stage 5 wheel with T3 flange will outflow some T4's Depending on AR Wheel size and whatnot. But really my turbo is undersized, 60-1hifi isnt that great about 10% less flow then 60-1. I wanted to make the car very street able so stock roller cam and smaller turbo, but i may adjust that plan. But still the main problem for now isnt turbo its transmissions. As of right now I have been making more power then the transmissions can hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Just find a low mileage 89 trans, put new fluid in, and go for it. It holds muey mucho power! at least 482 atw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Just find a low mileage 89 trans, put new fluid in, and go for it. It holds muey mucho power! at least 482 atw. The Manual is deff pretty good but problem is the clutch I have tried like 3 different performance ones and all died but For now manual isnt an option. I do have a race built 700R4 that if nothing works I will got to, and thats built for 800+hp. Of course I dont plan or want that much for this car, and I dont want to drive comfort of a transmission like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Well Car is now down for more series of changes/upgrades. To do:Rebuild Stock 4sp with Performance clutches, keeping the stage one shift mod (Hopefully I will have a good working 1st gear, and a working OD)Rebuild My turbo.Replace fuel Filter with highflow oneInstall Adjustable FPRInstall 310 intake 295 duration custom cam (ran on blue car worked great) With mechanical slip rockersInstall Profect B spec 2 for some boost control.Find/Fix exhaust manifold leak.Make a new set of Spark Plug wires since I have 3 of them and one miss match but I have enof to make a compleat new set, nice getting a v8 kit for a 4cyl lol Decided no real reason to upgrade the turbo as it had good spool up, plenty of power(more then 2 transmissions would hold, of course they where old warn transmissions) And plenty of power, being the same turbo with a smaller exhaust side got me a 12.4 at only 15psi on my old engine (new engine is making a good deal more). Basically I want this reliable and make this like it should be stock. Nothing crazy, t3/t4, MPI, and higher compression ratio 8:1-9:1 Looking for modest 300whp (again like it should have been stock).No since making so much power and make it unreliable. A fast car broken is not as fun a little slower car I can drive. Fun factor is what I am going for! (PS I am sure people will say go manual for that but for me at this time just not an option I am considering.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I have discovered that fun factor includes things like reliability, daily driveability, and being aligned properly. I think you're doing it right. Get a good (new) throttle body with good (new) idle control system. stock-like start up is priceless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzord30 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Starion in the Stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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