carguygibby Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Very well said Colin. You have presented the facts and your experiences with synthetic oils to back up your statements. For What It's Worth. KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeysocks Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) Well, I believe in sticking with 1 brand of oil and 1 brand of filter. I have ran Havoline in several Dirt track cars with no problem,however it is getting hard to find here. I also believe that the 3000 mile oil change was invented by the oil company's and the quick change places,,I have always changed at 5000 miles My Dad who drives everything until it drops changes at 5000. My 2008 Silverado recommends 7500 but I stick to the 5000Also I was surprised that no one uses Penzoil, I will not use it!!! I thought it was more popular than that As far as the synthetic oils, all I will say about that is, they have been using synthetic oils in Jet Engines since they were invented and if they are willing to put synthetic oil in an engine that cost several million dollars,,, there may be something to it? Edited June 25, 2011 by holeysocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlrichWolf Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) Both of my cars use 5W-30 Castrol GTX, the Starion gets a Wix filter, and the Grand Marquis always gets a Motorcraft. I use 5W-30 because oil pressure comes up significantly quicker on a cold start, and I have noticed no difference in pressure readings. Changed every 3000 miles, unless I am road tripping it, and then it will be changed immediately upon my return. I can't quite compare with Ken's 406,000 miles, however, my new engine now has 30,000 miles on it, and is as perfect as the day Maxzillian and I dropped it in; the Grand Marquis is pushing 110K, and it too is perfectly fine. Tim Edited June 25, 2011 by UlrichWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullzaflare Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Well, I believe in sticking with 1 brand of oil and 1 brand of filter. I have ran Havoline in several Dirt track cars with no problem,however it is getting hard to find here. I also believe that the 3000 mile oil change was invented by the oil company's and the quick change places,,I have always changed at 5000 miles My Dad who drives everything until it drops changes at 5000. My 2008 Silverado recommends 7500 but I stick to the 5000Also I was surprised that no one uses Penzoil, I will not use it!!! I thought it was more popular than that As far as the synthetic oils, all I will say about that is, they have been using synthetic oils in Jet Engines since they were invented and if they are willing to put synthetic oil in an engine that cost several million dollars,,, there may be something to it?last time i used penzoil it only lasted about a week before it was literally like water and blackits possible it was a bad batch, but would you want to take the chance? i like to use synthetics because it makes it easier for me to smell if theres gas in the oil, i have a slight oil leak at the rear of my oil pan from 1 stripped pan bolt, other than that, no leaks or burns actually...what do i even have in it at the moment...i think i have 4qt quaker 10w40, and 1qt sheetz sae 30, oil level has yet to change since then.(blew a ful quart out in 10 miles, valve cover gasket seated wrong after having it off, and covered EVERYTHING) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 5 quarts of Castrol SynBlend and a PureOne: $21.99Knowing my engine has a good oil change ever 3k miles: Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metric-man Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't want to quote anyone in this thread, but I have to make the point also because I see the debate / argument loom over engine oil threads. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil Most all oils have the petrolium components but the synthetic has been manipulated. I believe we would have more crude oil use if it wasn't for the petrolium chemeist, or maybe we all be using banana oil instead. Then we really could have a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carguygibby Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Almost forgot this important piece of advice.NEVER mix different grades of oil, it will only end in disaster causing an insane 102 page thread! Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rabbit1 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Almost forgot this important piece of advice.NEVER mix different grades of oil, it will only end in disaster causing an insane 102 page thread! Colin awesome point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 After building my 5.0 i used a cheap ol to break in.then went to castrol 20-50.after a couple more changes i decided to switch to mobil 1.after switching i noticed all kinds of leaks.i changed oil pan and valve cover gaskets and still leaked.after going back to castrol all the leaks stopped and finally the bottom of the car was clean again.the last time i changed my oil,i thought id try it again and sure enough the entire bottom of my car is soaked.i like mobil 1 but if it wont stay in mine its useless to me.some people have no trouble with it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Almost forgot this important piece of advice.NEVER mix different grades of oil, it will only end in disaster causing an insane 102 page thread! Colin Oh shat... I done did somethin' bad then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carguygibby Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Oh shat... I done did somethin' bad then... http://www.jrj-socrates.com/Cartoon%20Pics/Hanna%20Barbera/Scooby%20Doo/Scooby_307.gifRuh Roh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 http://www.jrj-socrates.com/Cartoon%20Pics/Hanna%20Barbera/Scooby%20Doo/Scooby_307.gifRuh Roh!http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/RevRock13/bunny_pancake.jpgSORRY! I had to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marso Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I believe it doesn't really matter what name brand oil you use (not generic or gas station crap) although in my early days as a mechanic I did notice a lot of cars coming in with a waxy build up in the lifter valley that ran Quakerstate or Pennsoil. The most important thing is a good filter and regular oil changes. I change mine whenever it gets too dark to read the dipstick or 3k miles whichever comes first. Never had a problem. Regular oils have been around for years and many cars have gone well over 100k miles. I personally like Valvoline or Castrol 10-40 don't know why maybe because the bottles are pretty. I recently ran Mobile one and the engine developed leaks. Run what you want, do regular maintenance and you will be fine there really is no debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strang3majik Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Quakerstate is reprocessed oil. Basically trash oil thats ran through a bunch of filters to make it "clean" again. I wouldn't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I run Valvoline Synthetic with K&N filters. Synthetic oils can handle more heat than petrolium based, which is important with turbochargers. This is why it is recommended to idle before shutting the engine off, and the use of timers which does this automatically. This issue is the heat from both exhaust and close bearing clearences in the turbo. If the oil is subjected to high heat it can 'coke' or revert to carbon, and become an abrasive. Water cooling the turbo as Mitsu & Chrysler do, minimizes this issue, but synthetic eliminates it. Asd for the filter, I use K&N because they can withstand the higher than usual oil pressure these engines are reported to run. I have never tried to measure it, but it is not uncommon to hear of a blown out filter on G54Bs. As to weight, the Owner's Manuals recommend lighter weight oils like 10w30 or 5w20. 20w50 is high for modern engines, especially in cold weather. Remember the majority of engine wear occurs when starting the engine, until the oil is properly flowing. This and tighter bearing clearances are better served by lighter weight oils. As to cost, Amsoil is expensive due to the pyramid marketing, but I used it way back in the 80s, before the major brands had syntehtic lines. I buy a 5 qt. jug 0f Valvoline Synpower or MaxLife Synpower at Walmart for $25; $20 on sale. I recently picked up a half dozen K&N filters from Norther Auto Parts (ebay) for $9.78 each, w/free S&H. These are just my opinions, but I recently replaced the timing chains on my first Conquest which has over 200K miles, and even the balance shaft bearings are still in good shape. Very little sluge in the oil pan or head, and no issue with leaks. I change oil and filter every 3K, which I feel is important with whatever oil, to get rid of the polutants. -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komeuppance Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I like to use whatever has the NASCAR logo on it. -Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I like to use whatever has the NASCAR logo on it. -RobertSuper potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Well I broke my new engine in with quakerstate and have been running it pretty hard for about 45,000 miles now. No problems and definitely no waxy buildup? I would like to switch to a synthetic but it just seems like everyone's opinion is different on the matter...running good so far so why switch? Seems like a lot of people run castrol gtx and others mobil 1... I just havent put much thought into switching but maybe i should...? Also wix filter 4tw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiplash Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Mobil 1 and a Wix oil filter. I use those in everything I own including the push mower, riding mower, and all cars and trucks. Also a note on Zinc. Seems that most engine oils made after Jan 2007 doesn't have the required Zinc. http://www.aera.org/eptb/TB2333R.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin88ESiR Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) I stick with synthetic and is typically Mobile 1 10W30 at the nearest lube station when I am too lazy to do it myself. I use Royal Purple when I do it myself or Amzoil, both 20W50. I used to use OEM filters exclusively until my local dealer moved. I typically use Fram or Purolator depending on which is in stock at the time of purchase. For the Branson-PF trip I used RP 20W50 and Fram. Edited July 13, 2011 by Austin88ESiR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I like to use whatever has the NASCAR logo on it. -Robert I do that too. If I'm buying something that I don't really care about the brand, but I see a brand that is an "official sponsor" to sports or some other organization I like, then I usually will choose that brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komeuppance Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I do that too. If I'm buying something that I don't really care about the brand, but I see a brand that is an "official sponsor" to sports or some other organization I like, then I usually will choose that brand. Haha, I was being sarcastic. Mobil1 does have the Nascar logo on it though!! -Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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