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#21 Bill Hincher

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 11:02 PM

View Postscottygibb, on 20 December 2010 - 07:07 PM, said:

Always enjoy reading your threads Bill , excellent innovative work as always. :)

   I will be looking you up next time I get to Vagas!





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Posted 21 December 2010 - 12:34 AM

and ill be looking you up when i get back bill!!
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#23 Bill Hincher

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 12:49 AM

This applies to all the Toyota transmissions, this just happens to be an R 154 but it will work on the W series  just as easy that long rod with the finger at the end of it is the key to building the remote shifter that is low enough to fit under the trans tunnel and move the shifter back as far as I wanted
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you can see here how the finger fits in the three shiftshafts to move the R 154 through all the different gear selections
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at the other end of the shaft away from the finger end I built this recepter at an angle in an attempt to keep the shaft low, I built  this as a starter project, I will take the numbers I found here and continue to lower it further
I built a couple pillar blocks and found the correct numbers to build the shift ratio for the sideways motion in the shifter, it was about 72%

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  I cut away the rear housing so I could see the shift motion in all gears, it shift as smooth as silk >;o)  
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Edited by Bill Hincher, 24 February 2011 - 11:11 PM.


#24 Bill Hincher

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:20 PM

I keep trying to mount the remote shifter as low as possible on top of the trans, I dont want as little obstruction as possible

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  I built a flange to mount the bridges accross and locate the new shifter rod, I keep moving peices back and forth, up and down trying to seek the lowest level and still maintain mechanical leverage
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  originaly I wanted to place a window here to see the pin go in place but I dont know if it would be an advantage to anyone
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 09:28 AM

Bill,

That is way low..nice. I wonder why you need such an angle on the shift rod.? Is it for leverage?
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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:26 PM

View PostBOHO, on 25 February 2011 - 09:28 AM, said:

Bill,

That is way low..nice. I wonder why you need such an angle on the shift rod.? Is it for leverage?


   the shift shaft is not at an angle, the mounting surface of the original shifter is, its about 5 degrees sloping downward, so it gives the impression its the shaft that is at an angle. its exactly parallel to the lower shift shaft

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:51 PM

I just had my lever and housing exteneded. why not do that rather than rebuild the whole thing?
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Posted 04 May 2011 - 10:09 AM

View Postphinko, on 25 February 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

I just had my lever and housing exteneded. why not do that rather than rebuild the whole thing?

Because you "had" it extended. This provides a off the shelf, bolt on solution.
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:49 PM

I spent a great deal of time and energy developing motor mount jig so I can build repeatable engine mounts

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  It is amazing something we all take for granted has so many fassets, it was a real eye opener, you can see here the G54b engine mout bolt on the drivers side is 3/4 in higher then the EVO/4G63 drivers side mount
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  and to furthur complicate things, the crankshaft in the G54b is 1/2 inch higher into the block then the 4G63
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  even better yet is the fact that the enginge block is wider on the 4G63 then the G54b when measured to the drivers side engine mount
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  so after I measured and remeasured I found out what the crankshaft C/L was doing when mounted with the original G54b engine mounts, it raised the engine 3/4 in and set the drivers side offset left 9/16 in. after documenting everything I was within .040 thousands of the proper C/L when I used the frame gauges
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   I had to build a jig with the ability to cut 2 different sized mounts and achieve all the needed angles involved, nothing is square, the engine bolts are kept horizonal but the engine is mounted at and angle, the engine is built at a 2 degree tilt to the passenger side and the mounts ride in a cradle at 45 degrees
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  first the drivers side and next the passenger side
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  all the angles and demensions are kept in the square jig
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:37 PM

damn i would go so Mcguyver with all those tools. great work

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 03:10 PM

Looks great Bill. I'll def. be watching closely for when these go into "production".

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:58 PM

they finished out real nice, let me know if you want a set

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:56 PM

this is for Big John, I am waaaaaay late but the original tail shaft mount is an inch too high
so the first thing I needed to do was attach a mount to the trans, I had to build a pressbrake die to form the shape in one stroke
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after I built the die I placed a piece in and pressed it in the press
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  I built quite a few of these brackets over and over again until I found the shape and size of material I wanted, as you can see, this stuff is never a one shot deal, you just keep building and building until you hit it right
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these are shock absorber bushings, you can buy any size you like, they cost about $4.00 bucks
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  I was playing around with different shapes and size bushings to see what was easy to work with and what looked  and worked good
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  I will be using the original rear crossmember and building a mating mount for my design
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dont let the picutres fool you, it takes a lot of TIME to develop an idea, plan the parts, make the tools and assemble the part it aint easy to look easy >;o)

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 09:16 PM

Nice work Bill.
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 09:29 PM

View Postjayfressh, on 04 May 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

Because you "had" it extended. This provides a off the shelf, bolt on solution.

Actually moron, I "HAD" it extended at a shop that uses a jig for extending...... wait for it..... R154 Shifter Housings. Its completely repeatable. "THEY" do it all the damn time. You tell them the relocation measurement and send in the housing. back in 2 weeks.



Nice work bill! Those mounts like sick.
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Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:31 AM

View Postphinko, on 14 June 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Actually moron, I "HAD" it extended at a shop that uses a jig for extending...... wait for it..... R154 Shifter Housings. Its completely repeatable. "THEY" do it all the damn time. You tell them the relocation measurement and send in the housing. back in 2 weeks.



Nice work bill! Those mounts like sick.


  the shifter isnt for anything specific, it was an idea for a freind in England that needed to assemble a shifter in the most compact way he could, so thats why I messed around with it, Phil's way of building the shifter is fine, thats the way I will do it on a 'swap build' to keep the cost down, but, if you wanna have some REAL fun, I will show you how the remote shifter could be a big improvement over the long shifter extension idea
   Its  a mute point here though, because Phil is using the wide block, it has a 2 in set back compared to the 4G63
  
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Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:10 AM

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This. I think I'll quote you for a while.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 10:23 AM

You make it look too easy Bill... You and all your fancy tools... lol   Great work as usual.
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Posted 15 June 2011 - 11:36 PM

That shifter doesnt look much further forward than mine was. The company that did mine does housings for lexus' that are like 7" long with no problems.

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:42 PM

the single mount system I was working with, would not work because it was back too far for the original cross member so I changed the upper mount to accept a lower bushing mount
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  then I built a steel lower cushon mount and it was just too much work to weld up and hold straight so I built a third lower cushion mount out of aluminum
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  that finally worked after a lot of adjusting  it all worked out well
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