For $60 I wouldn't expect much. Would you say the same for RF's entry into the mass-market speaker production world (Best Buy, etc)?? I have their original gold-series end cap 60.2 amps and 2 of their 12" Punch subs circa 97-98 before they sold em in mass. That setup was pretty stout in my Daytona, but the sealed box doesn't fit in the Starion. What's your take on their value/performance now? I'd like to build/get a box for them for the Starion eventually.