Mrounds Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hey guys new to the board. I bought a 87 for 250 and have a 94 Chevy caprice with a 6 speed that I will be gutting. I just have a few questions for those who have done this where do you get a front sump oil pan and well I guess that's all my worries. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eirewolf Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Summit has a low-profile LS1 oil pan, they most likely have one for an LT1 as well, i would imagine. Or Jegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg_43 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I was told, the only front sump SBC was a LS1 from a 04 GTO. I'm not sure about that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyQuest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 You can get a front sump pan,pump & pickup tube for the newer one piece rear mains from Chevy II only. It,s a company that specializes in replacement parts for the Chevy II. You may be able to use the oil pan made for 4x4 S10 swaps as it has a narrower sump to accomodate the front axle on those trucks which may clear the steering linkange on the Quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I have gotten a little bit of the swap complete. I have the motor sitting in the car after modifing the crossmember and making motor mounts. Still working on getting the steering to work with the rear sump oil pan. Here is a link to the first test fit with the spare motor. I have done a lot since this picture but need to take a few more pics to post. http://cid-b7fdcd65c51462bf.skydrive.live....spx/Car/016.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomad Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Did you start with a 94 caprice that had already been swapped to manual? If so, waht are your plans with the shell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Did you start with a 94 caprice that had already been swapped to manual? If so, waht are your plans with the shell? I installed the 6 speed in the caprice. I have not decided I was thinking about selling it or installing the original motor and a tranny in it and selling it, either way it will be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 So its been a while, but finally got the caprice stripped and started the conversion. Left the motor alone and just modified the car to work with the engine. Also started a rack and pinion conversion out of a mustang. Here are some pics. It will all get pulled out and cleaned as well as engine bay getting a fresh coat of paint. So far only tacked everything together so I can still make tweaks as needed. I bought center dump headers which now are going to be modified to work with the new rack. Its is always change as most projects do. More to come. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Oh almost forgot to give credit to Adam (rustrocket) for the rack and pinion idea. Thanks it looks like it will work good. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Looks good man. I'm swapping an LS1 in mine right now going through the same mess. I also rebult my k member to use a mustang (style rack) in front of the k member. My question is, which a little junk yard diving should solve, is what to do with the spindles? I'm going to start a thread tonight on my build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Looks good man. I'm swapping an LS1 in mine right now going through the same mess. I also rebult my k member to use a mustang (style rack) in front of the k member. My question is, which a little junk yard diving should solve, is what to do with the spindles? I'm going to start a thread tonight on my build. Adam told me you can just reverse the attachment points for the tie rods, going to try this week will let you know how it goes. After a quick look today, it looks to me that all I would have to do is hone or get the attachment points honed out by a shop to fit the mustang tie rods. I will find out more this week. I also ordered up the 2 u-joints and the shafts for the steering will see how they workout. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I thought the same way and did that on monday. It kinda works. As in, they bolt up but end up off center from the strut. I don't feel that its unsafe, they are just a little off. The problem we face now is the steering rod hitting the the caster rods. it looks like it will clear when turned in, but when turned out the rotational angle of the spindle makes it go upwards. give it a shot, you'll see what I mean. Its not a huge deal, and theirs got to be away around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) I finally got a steering setup that will work. Had to convert over to heim joints and spacers. I have a friend that owns a machine shop in Colorado who also built a SCCA race car. He told me how to take care of bump steer and showed me the setup on his race car. The goal is to get the length on the rod on the rack to match the lower control arm. By adjusting the spacer you can take bump steer out. I had a machine shop make me couplers that thread on to the rack rod and then left hand threads for the heim joint. Now I can spin the coupler and it adjusts the tow in and out. Time for the exhaust! http://cid-b7fdcd65c51462bf.skydrive.live....browse.aspx/Car Edited August 18, 2009 by Mrounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well another progress report on the swap. I finished the headers up and the exhaust to the muffler is tacked in to posistion. I am doing duel side pipes just need to decide if I will cut in to the body and mount them high or just come straight out the side. Headers still need weilds cleaned up and painted/rapped but that will come when everything is completed and I pull it apart for full clean up before final reassembly. Its been slow have only had time to work on it here and there. The header on the drivers side was fun to make due to the steering rod for the rack and pinion. I still need to do a little metal massage so it does not hit the frame rail if the motor rocks side to side ( dont think it will since the motor mounts are pretty solid with just a little urathane bushing for vibration). http://cid-b7fdcd65c51462bf.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Car?lc=1033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 looking good man, beating me to it... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 looking good man, beating me to it... lol Not really, I'm just doing all the mock up now, I still have to fully disassemble it all for final welding and painting. You know all the small things take the most time. But your doing all those things as you go. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremeboost Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Any pictures on this ? Sounds like its gonna be a beast , and a 6 speed trans FTW !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Any pictures on this ? Sounds like its gonna be a beast , and a 6 speed trans FTW !!!!!! I add all the pic's to my hotmail photo area. The link is http://cid-b7fdcd65c...spx/Car?lc=1033 Thanks for looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 yeah thats why I haven't painted my engine bay yet... I got these for my steering, still haven't had the pieces made yet, still not 100% on the design. Steeda bump steer kit. Also did both control arms, still need to box them in with heims... lots to do.. http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/johnboy9788/106_0225.jpghttp://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/johnboy9788/106_0228.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrounds Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) yeah thats why I haven't painted my engine bay yet... I got these for my steering, still haven't had the pieces made yet, still not 100% on the design. Steeda bump steer kit. Also did both control arms, still need to box them in with heims... lots to do.. http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/johnboy9788/106_0225.jpghttp://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/johnboy9788/106_0228.jpg Looking good. Your wood piece needs to be larger on that end where they connect so that the travel of the rack arm and the lower control arm are the same. I do not know if I said that right but as long as the sweep of both are the same you will not have bump steer. I have to change my tranny mount a little. I designed it the hard way and found a easier and cleaner way so I;m going to change it but just the ends. It should make the mounting location look nice with out all that welding. Just one of those things that you do before you think. I think I will do more work on it this week if the wife doesn't change my plains. Edited November 25, 2009 by Mrounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I know what your saying. But when the wheels are straight, the steering rack and control arms are perfectly parallel. its only when the steering is at full lock that they become unparallel. I'll get another pic tonight to show you what I mean. I really only plan on having about 1" of suspension travel so I really don't think its going to be an issue. Be sure to post some pics of the new mount, very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT1QUESTLSXIMPALA Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 i bought a 86 conquest to put a lt1 in it. do you have to rebuild the steering and k member? i hope you guys will help me out on some of the things i might need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 it depends on you oil pan, and how shot your steering system is. Racks are superior in everyway, and might come in as a "might as well while I'm at it" kinda thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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