Burton Posted February 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 I'm not sure the size of the air compressor, but you don't need much. All you need is an A/C that puts out a continuos 50 PSI for painting. If you need a setup for grinding and other air tools you should get a bigger one. We just used a regular air hose and used the regulator on the A/C. The spray gun is a Devilbiss h.v.l.p. ( high volume low pressure) spray gun. H.v.l.p guns only need 20 PSI air. You can find other guns for cheaper that will do basicly the same thing. You can also get a "gravity feed" gun which has the cup above the gun instead of below. I think the gravity feed guns work better for spraying clearcoat, but other guns will work. If you have never painted a car before, I recommmend buying a book about it before. Its cheaper to buy a book than to buy twice the paint after you have to redo the first job because you made mistakes (everybody does the first time). As far as the paint curing- It is washable and driveable after about 24 hours if the temp is 70 degrees or higher. The hotter it is the quicker it dries. In the shops I worked at they had $150k downdraft booths that could heat up to 130+ degrees. That was nice- finish the last coat crank up the heat and come back and drive the car home 40 min. later. Paint doesn't actually cure fully for 60 days. It has to "breathe" so to speak. That is why you can't wax fresh paint until 60-90 days later. You can use polishing compounds because they smoothe surfaces without sealing them like wax does. Can't wait to get my car home this weekend. Maybe it will be nice enough to get some better pics of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Yeah I have a conventional gun that I have used a few times but I just bought a Harbor Freight HVLP that was recommended by a lot of people However my compressor isn't powerfull enough to supply the volume. I can't hold 40psi on the regulator of the gun for 2 minutes straight (wide open controls on the gun). I mean it will spray the motorbike tank fine but not a car. So I am looking into a larger compressor or a stronger pump for my compressor. I also have a lot of condensation problems with my compressor which still might be due to the cheap pump (generates too much heat while trying to fill that puppy). I have a filter system 20 feet from the compressor and another small one at the gun/tool. Still have water problems. I guess I will work on getting the compressor up to par and then see if the condensation is still an issue. I might end up with a hardpipe system in my garage. kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoolinturbo Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 you better be sorry for us dial uppers I made a bowl of ice-cream and ate it before it loaded haha. at first i was like "50PSI!" lol then i continued to read. I prefer the Gravity feed HVLP gun personally. Kev check in with sears about compressors they run deals all the time, you can even ask him the next time they are having a huge sale on them, they are a few months in advance. I know I used to work there Condensation is your worst enemy when painting a car, so is early morning dew if your a late worker. grab some torpedo heaters if you havent already have them, they can minimize drying time as well....just keep them a good distance away from the car. have you ever painted a car before kev? if not we can all give you some good advice, but a book would be a good help too. Re-painting your own work gets...well very angry *turns green and large* haha. jeff 8) oh yea, you want nothing coming in, Huge blue tarps to block dust from walls and ceilings can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh '88 Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 burton: WOW!!! :o That looks awesome! I really like the grill inserts you installed in the front air dam. I can't wait to see a picture of your car outside in the sunlight. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARSHAL_LAW Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 hey, burton i live 10 mins south of grand rapids would like to see the car up close and get a feel for what it looks like in the light. can't tell to well in pics. reason for this looking to paint mine black with maybe a tint of red if possible or something like that effect. let me if you would mine me lookin at it. chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted February 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Yeah, I don't mind. Only problem is its at the Tainter's getting engine work done. If you can wait a few weeks I will have it back here, Otherwise we'll have to try to find a time for you to stop by their place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlQuest Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 i really like those grill inserts as well burton. that's sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwindmachine Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 What did you do about all the weatherstripping, spoiler, plastic trim parts in terms of replacing, masking, etc? did you buy any new trim retainer clips, or weatherstrip, or did you just mask off everything you didn't want painted on the car and just spray it whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted March 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 just masked it all up and removed what I could easily. The spoilers were painted as well. Took off the mirrors, grille, foglight and headlight trim, taillights and license plate frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted March 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 here's a link to some pics of the head swap that is going on. http://www.t-racing.com/burton_quest.htm here's whats getting done: Clearwater head HD springs ARP studs timing chain replaced 110 alternator MBC (maybe EBC) TB rebuild new injector clips 2.5 exhaust w/ex. dump  The Tainters are doing all this for me, and as the took it apart found it already had: 14g oversized swaybar MSD Blaster 2 coil Blitz BOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlQuest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 did i just read in another post that you're going to repaint the car already!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted March 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Yes, not happy with the color, and also unhappy w/ the finish on its current job. I could spend hours wetsanding and buffing the current paint, and still be unhappy w/ the color. I will do the blue candy over a highly metallic silver base. At the same time I can achieve a better finish and be happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlQuest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 that sounds bad a** man! i love candy blue colors. the black does look good in pictures though....but the blue will be MUCH better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion_nebula Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 all i can see is "image not found" and a bunch of red X's :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted May 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2004  Sorry about that. I had some hosting issues. I edited the pics and posts and now all is good. Status as of now:  Tainters got my engine done here's a nice pic of a before and after: http://www.t-racing.com/Image%20file/barton/before_after(runs).jpg  Here's a link to a ton of pictures that Matt and Luke took during the process: http://www.t-racing.com/burton_quest.htm  Here's what all got done: Clearwater headARP studsHD springsnew liftersnew rockersnew timing chainbalance shaft elimination2.5 exhaust with Flowmaster muffler and electronic downpipe dumpintercooler and accordion hardpipesall new vacum lines110A GM alternator upgrade  Then I went after the interior. I wanted to add asplash of color without looking too "ricer": http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzY5MzE2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzY5MjAxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzY5MjAyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpg  You can see in those pics the nice shift and e-brake boots made by Shawn (ESIRtype?).  Here's what needs to be done yet:front wheel bearings, tie rod ends and ball joints.Greddy ProfecIIK&N and 1G MASstrengthen the frame railsgauge pod with boost and voltmeterall the custom stereo stuff in the trunk Here's some other links too:  A nice phot shoot at the Tainters that included my car:http://www.t-racing.com/04_photo_shoot_april.htm  My cardomain site that has many pics from the resto project:http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/547983/1  I will keep this up to date as the front end work, repaint and stereo work takes place.  Thanks for looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted June 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Â Added some rear speaker pods that I built tonight: http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNDIxODA0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoolinturbo Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 burton, i like your color man, definitly unique, i wouldnt change it if i were you but what floats your boat man, but if you do im sure it will come out hella nice! jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Â Well, this is how it looks as of today: http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/dp1.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/interior22.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/interior1.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/interior3.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/fire%20extinguisher.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/stereodone1.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/s04hood.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/s04front.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/s04dside.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/s04pside.JPG http://OklahomaSpeed.com/pics/so4lrquarter.JPG Â This is how it will stay for now. I plan to add another boost gauge, strenghthen up the frame and add a Greddy ProfecII all before winter. I'll post pics of that later when it gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwindmachine Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 one of the benefits of being an American is having the right to voice your own opinion in a public forum. its nice to see one of these cars repaired and cleaned up instead of parted out or wrecked. I'm not sure what your inspiration or psuedo-automotive role models consist of. In my opinion there are several visual aspects of this car which keep it from being a symbiotic blend of restoration with modification that is best showcased usually in concept cars and other good execution of style, design and performance. The color you chose to accent all the trim just calls attention to itself and for what? When was the last time you saw colored wire loom used in a high quality show car or magazine car? The hood scoops, since their not original to the car, and their curvature matches nothing else on the car and they aren't even molded in...they seem to stand-out in a out-of-place way. At first, when I was following your work it looked great. Nice, clean and tastefull. Somehwhere along the line bad taste seeped in and it just seems like you went overboard and you're calling attention to things that look out of place, or that just shouldn't be highlighted. Take a look at a Chevy SSR, Chrylser 300 or Crossfire, some Ferraris, or just page through your favorite car mag. Most people don't go haywire with some blatant off the wall coloration or if they do its usually done to accentuate something of symetry, uniqueness, etc... Agree with me, don't agree with me, like me or hate me... this is my opinion and thankfully, in America, you're welcome to yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Dude, thats fine. You don't have to drive it I like it and you are actually the first negative feedback I have gotten so I ain't sweatin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandoknight Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 well I find that I have to two cents worth on this subject. I think burton has put alot of time and effort into his ride and for that I give him two thumbs up. everyone has there right to speek there mind, but sometimes it better to keep ones opinion to ones self. what ever burtons role model was is of no importance, arlen ness doesn't have to have role models in order to desigh or build a bike. perhapse burton should have moved the string to the ineterior and body mods section, but still he did the work instead of taking it to the local bolt on retailer to buy buy every eyecandy piece avaiable out of the ads fron the sport inport tuner catalogs. we live in the worlds greatest country. it was not built on opinions or the freedom of speech but instead it was built on commitment to ideals, imagination and hard work. (blood, sweat and tears.) My two cents worth. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcrasta Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Man I wish we had the Tainters near me they made that engine bay look sweet with those hard pipes. ENVY ! Burton again Nice car man! Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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