keyboardracer Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Once my lancer is paid off i'm going to have to find a new project to piss my wife off with. I've wanted an 88 Starion for about 5 years now and though it will not be my first turbo car, it will be my first turbo RWD car. I will be looking to figure out a way to keep the G54b and add a DOHC head (possibly from a 4g63T?). going to be using it for road racing and he occasional 1/4 mile run. I'm really excited to be this close to starting this project out and am looking forward to learning about one of the most iconic turbocharged vehicles to ever exist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 You can forget about the dual cam head but otherwise good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yep the G54B and 4G63 are completely different engine families. Meaning parts DON'T interchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboardracer Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Well I can't say that doesn't break my heart a little bit. was hoping to be able to keep the 2.6L but it won't be worth it for me if I can't run a DOHC setup with it. might have to end up getting a roller and start from scratch with a different motor. I appreciate the quick input guys! I've got some more research to do now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 DOHC isn't the end all be all. There are people making 700+ hp on the SOHC head. 300-400 hp daily drivers are not uncommon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyquest Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Agreed, and these car's aren't overly heavy so even in stock trim they scoot pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 If you gotta have 2 cams, check out projectzerog.com, a website devoted to swapping 4G63's into a ton of rwd cars, including Starquests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboardracer Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I know there are ways to make power on a SOHC setup, i'm trying to go DOHC just because i want to learn more about them through this project. I know that the 4g63 is a popular swap, but if i have to swap out the engine i'd probably go with a 4g64 for the cost effectiveness. what are you guys with the 4g63 swaps using for a transmission? will an EVO 5 speed work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyquest Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'm curious, since you have an evo why would you need this car to learn about dohc on? You already own a dohc motor to learn from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboardracer Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 i've got a ralliart, and it's currently my only means of getting to work and back. i want something that i can tinker around on without having to put it back together in order to get to work on time the next day. I also want something that i can built from the ground up, with my own two hands. I'm kind of a big fan of turbo 4 cylinders and have wanted a starion/conquest from my birth year (1988) for sentimental reasons. it's going to be my weekend warrior that i will be taking to the track and i am taking my time trying to plan out the right build so that when i buy one i will already know which direction to take it and can get to work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyquest Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I know you might be stuck on the DOHC but I'd really suggest keeping the stock engine and using that as a base until later. I learned everything I know about cars on my first 87 narrowbody and these cars are not overly difficult to work on or understand. And the stock engine is no slouch, you can do all kinds of things to it. Just my 2 cents, either way I'm sure you will get to where you want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboardracer Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I know you might be stuck on the DOHC but I'd really suggest keeping the stock engine and using that as a base until later. I learned everything I know about cars on my first 87 narrowbody and these cars are not overly difficult to work on or understand. And the stock engine is no slouch, you can do all kinds of things to it. Just my 2 cents, either way I'm sure you will get to where you want to be. i haven't completely ruled out building the stock engine, but at this point these cars are going on 30 years old. is there still a lot of aftermarket support for the G54B?i'm here to learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyquest Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 There never was aftermarket support for them in any traditional sense of the word and to be honest that is a great thing if your looking to learn. You will need to research and think outside the box then build what you need. For instance, the tps sensor on our cars is NLA so with an adapter plate a member made I'm running a TPS from a mazda sedan lol. You will learn tons problem solving and improving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyquest Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Take a look at just about anyones build thread and you will see people solving problems. Here is mine if you want to take a look at a more extreme example --> http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=143564 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Aren't evo 5's awd? People use all kinds of transmissions- R154, t56, starion...the transmission isn't really an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboardracer Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 i really appreciate all the insight, iv'e got a few more months of research to do but any wisdom you guys are willing to impart to make my job easier is always welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw458 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 TBI controlled by megasquirt or MPI on the stock motor. Newer electronics, more power. But I suggest sticking with stockish first, saving $ and making plans before doing anything. We've seen plenty of half finished cars get parted out. What's to learn on DOHC that you can't on SOHC??? It has one more cam, not that different or special. Wanting to swap before even experiencing what the stock engine can do suggests a lack of experience with cars in general. A 4G63 can be just as problematic as a G54B. G54Bs are rock solid when built right. I don't mean with special parts. I mean just doing it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twojayzeestarion Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Swap it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboardracer Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Wanting to swap before even experiencing what the stock engine can do suggests a lack of experience with cars in general. Touche sir. i'm inexperienced as hell, but i'm very persistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 You'd be surprised at what the lowly seeming G54B can do. Yes the 4G63 is a great performing motor and you could still swap to it one day if you so choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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