Guest singtoe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hey everybody. I have 1984 Starion drivetrain in a 1974 Triumph Spitfire. I got the car in trade so now I have decided to go with it. The drive train consists of the motor, intercooler, 5 speed, rear diff and disk brakes. It is a very fun car to drive. The Car weighs 1600 pounds and the motor puts out 150 or 200 hp. not sure,so I would like to improve the engine performance. What should I do first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Sounds interesting... Got pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markhansenconquest Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) clean gas tank!!!!! LITTLE NICKY ....... Edited September 28, 2014 by markhansenconquest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoz17 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Post up some pics, sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest singtoe Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Here some pictures... http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv145/singtar/4Runner%20Limited/C147271F-318A-4ED5-812E-EB8ECD16D24F_zpsqtblq9ar.jpgHere are some pictures. http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv145/singtar/4Runner%20Limited/D22899BF-3983-4B97-8DDB-776BB7CA4FC8_zpsnmkkp72z.jpg http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv145/singtar/4Runner%20Limited/4D5D403C-B6E7-43BC-BF85-1239824862BB_zpscfp3nxrt.jpg http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv145/singtar/4Runner%20Limited/93DCE7AB-AD9C-4288-94B9-3D3756053700_zpsxncetouf.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasQuest Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 What a bonkers setup, that is really, really cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMeyerhoff Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Neat stuff.! Is it running a factory ECU or does it have some aftermarket setup? Megasquirt is a popular option here and its easier to work with even if you stay TBI... Going MPI and a bigger turbo are the most obvious solutions for some more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMeyerhoff Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Another thing, is it LSD? LSD was an less common option in 84. Any of the 86 or older LSD rears will work with your existing axles, just make sure to get the torque tube to go with it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest singtoe Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It uses the stock ECM for 1984. As far as I know, its just got an open diff but the car is so light that it doesn't take much to break the rear end loose into a power slide. It has a manual boost controller, No cat , 3" downpipe and a resonator exhaust that exits in front of the rear wheel. It has methanol injection but I don't know how to use it or what juice to put in it. It seams to hit 10 lbs of boost and studders sharply. cut the boost down to 9.5 lbs and it runs like a champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMeyerhoff Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 There are two things that commonly limit boost on early cars. The MAP sensor itself can go overvoltage, there is a way to control this using a certian diode. And the second thing is that the MAS signal will start to become noisey causing the computer fits. Usually that is fixed by swapping in a 1g turbo mas or using a MAFTranslator. Both of these problems are eliminated entirely by going to something like Megasquirt. I have MS2 on my 86 now (still TBI) and I'm finding it a lot easier to work with than the Gen2 Translator I had before. mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Can't post pictures how frustrating this stud forum is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Beautiful 1988 Starion black on black manual steering purchased from professor quest , magna intake set up with mega squirt 2 tc05 ported to 20g 3 row Camaro radiator a/c 9in rears 7in fronts gr2 struts fidanza flywheel act clutch standard Dad built my head 1mm over sizes SS valves shnider springs and 274 cam re-sleeved block to stock with wiesco stock pistons mk1 short shifter mk1 trigger wheel full 2.5 exhaust with magna flow big front mount and if I'm missing something is... Oh! Yeah I can't freaking show you because you make it so difficult to upload questporn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 It uses the stock ECM for 1984. As far as I know, its just got an open diff but the car is so light that it doesn't take much to break the rear end loose into a power slide. It has a manual boost controller, No cat , 3" downpipe and a resonator exhaust that exits in front of the rear wheel. It has methanol injection but I don't know how to use it or what juice to put in it. It seams to hit 10 lbs of boost and studders sharply. cut the boost down to 9.5 lbs and it runs like a champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Fuel cuts will cause you car to shutter if it can't meet the demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Only way to eliminate that is bypassing the fuel cut relay to pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest singtoe Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 what about using a HKS FCD. Will it solve my problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I prefer full stand Stand alone because of how cheap mega squirt is and I'm very happy with Audie magna both work well together. Price wise the piggy back HKS is awesome and easy to use. Be careful when you purchase these products do you research it will pay off. What ever assistance I can provide or advice just ask. Apexi, Greddy and HKS are all similar but require professional installation. My neighbor is an airline electrician for AA and he helped me build my DIY mega squirt 2 I bought in pieces. I have him 250 to wire up and put it together on my car plus 350 for the mega squirt and dyno was tuned for 340$ that's 90 for shop 250 for tunner guy. I would start off with piggies and eliminating little by little you PS ABS antique is crap your MAFS eventually you want to control fuel spark and cross the mpi bridge when you got some $ to spend you can find an mpi custome fab on ebay for around 500 and that's how much I paid to get it and it had all the welds and mods done to it. Look around Luke the force is strong within your car find what it is your looking for and hope you learned a good lesson today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Your stock computer has factory preloaded maps and depending on the year your car can suffer greatly 87 to 88 ECM are different you want 88 89 85 to 86 also power difference so you need a piggy back safc and vpc to eliminate those issues ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Your map temperature also plays a big part you need your car to run cooler in the engine compartment try wrapping you exhust down pipe and rear housing to manifold. Optimum temperature should be compatible with atmospheric temps ok so if it's 80 degrees out side your map temp should be around 85 90 not 100 112 to hot car runs bad. You will have to adjust the settings when temperatures outside change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Word of advise upgrade you rear ends people from 4 to 6 bolt no questioning reliability it's the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBoys 88 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Also everyone should look out for the mighty max deisel 4x4 buy it and build a all four with 9in Starion wheels all around put a g54b like we have down here and rip it. D50 trucks are rare to cop one if you can you wont regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinra ceo bman Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welcome to club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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