Crazy Quest Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 well, i'm running 8's now anyhow. so, i guess i'm in the clear. DOES NOT RAISE THE CAR AT ALL. Thanks pactra. I just ordered mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I tried to mount these with some new MSW 17" wheels.........NO GO. They will have to be cut down by at least a 1/2" to have @ 1/4" clearence. I would suggest that these be offered in a variety of thickness, so they would be a fit out of the box. I imagine a machine shop will want at least $50.00 or more to machine these down. Then I will have to pay to get them re-installed, and the front end aligned again.......which is another $120.00+. This was an expensive lesson !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 By the way, those TSW wheels (not MSW) were 17" X 8". Hopefully this info will be helpful to others, before making any purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestador89 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 ^^I haven't had the chance to install mine...what are your offsets???are you using spacers???what are your suspension mods... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Offset of wheels is 20. I was worried about spacing the wheels out further. The car is pretty low, and I did not want to lose steering ability or have a rubbing issue.......so I had them pulled back off of the car. Maybe if I rolled the wheel wells and spaced the wheels out with a .25 spacer, they should clear. But it would probably be cheaper to machine off @ 1/2" to 3/4" of the thickness of these units. To be honest, the steering is fine without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 i ordered mine a got em delivered in less than 24 hours. i'm running non shp 8's up front so theres no clearance issues. 17x8 with a +20 offset is a horrible offset so you'll prob have to run spacers like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 i ordered mine a got em delivered in less than 24 hours. i'm running non shp 8's up front so theres no clearance issues. 17x8 with a +20 offset is a horrible offset so you'll prob have to run spacers like you said. ????? The standard offset on a factory is 18. So why would a 20 be a horrible offset ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestador89 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) ^^^because you're lowered Edited December 5, 2012 by conquestador89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I cannot move the wheels inwards, because the tires hit the suspension with these installed. I cannot move the wheels outward, because there is only about 1/16" of space between the tire and inner-fender. So what do you propose I do ?? If I raise the car higher again, then there would be no need for the bump-steer blocks. The 20 degree offset is about perfect from what I can tell, as it is centered between the inner-fender well and the suspension. The blocks need to be thinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestador89 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 use spacers...roll fenders or use Eastwood finisher...trim or take off fender liners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Cannot space out........only about 1/16" of space left. I really want to keep the fender liners in place. I think I will just leave the spacers out for now, and deal with any bump-steering that may be present. I will have these units reduced in thickness, and re-install at a later date. I only wanted to let fellow owners know of the extreme measures that will have to be taken in many cases, to get these to fit. Upon reading this thread, I thought my 17" rims would easily clear. That is not true. I believe 18" rims could possibly clear without modification. Or if you run a 7" wide rim instead of an 8".......you may be OK ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) ????? The standard offset on a factory is 18. So why would a 20 be a horrible offset ??? I assumed you meant positive 20 offset. since stock 8" has a negative offset. i'm actually surprised you are hitting if you are running negative 20 offset. Edited December 6, 2012 by patra_is_here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) I went out and confirmed my measurements for 16X8 non-shp rears mounted up front. there's room to move the balljoint 35mm downward. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8481/8251018368_ac524b9dc0.jpg Edited December 6, 2012 by patra_is_here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 now, the tie rod end is going to be damn close, and might hit the old school wheel weights. but again, if you are running 17" wheels, you'll have another 1/2 of clearance AND 5mm more offset worth of clearance if your wheels are neg 20 offset. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8070/8249949823_2a80f5d9de.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 which brings up the question: How did these go from 25mm to 35mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquestador89 Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 i have no clue myself...since the beginning i asked for 25mm...i still have the emails...if you look on their site all they're RCAs are 35mm....i think it wont be a problem with me but for the others i think if talk to techno toy tuning they probably can accommodate the others about machining it before shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWadd Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) FYI you can use a part from and '83 to fix the ball tie rod end hitting the wheelThe original 25mm mookeeh RCA'S made the tie rod end hit a 7 inch front wheel so im gonna guess a 35mm one will toohttp://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/starionkiller/random%20parts/th_2011-02-17175900.jpghttp://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/starionkiller/flatty%20arm%20install/th_2011-08-06160819.jpg Edited December 7, 2012 by JohnnyWadd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl007 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I assumed you meant positive 20 offset. since stock 8" has a negative offset. i'm actually surprised you are hitting if you are running negative 20 offset. All I know is Goodyear installed them, and refused to let the car out the door with them rubbing the rim. They said it would be dangerous to operate the car like that. I inspected them and verified them hitting. It would be nice if Techno Toy Tuning would offer to machine these down for those of us who purchased them. I will try and contact them when I get back home next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 can you post some pictures of your wheels on the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I assumed you meant positive 20 offset. since stock 8" has a negative offset. i'm actually surprised you are hitting if you are running negative 20 offset. FYIStock front rims are +18, not -18. Rears are about 0. If the fronts were negative, they'd be deeper or as deep as the rears.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuze Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Quick clarification question: If the Mookeeh 18mm RCA's barely fit, and his 25mm ones didn't fit any stock rims, what are the chances of a 35mm RCA fitting? I'm not trying to do anything but bolt them on, has this been addressed? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 FYIStock front rims are +18, not -18. Rears are about 0. If the fronts were negative, they'd be deeper or as deep as the rears.. stock 8" non SHP wheels are negative 10. (sorry, i thought negative 15) all we are talking about are 8" wheels for comparison, since the person I'm having a discussion with is running 8" with a 20 offset, that we still don't know whether it's a positive 20 or a negative 20. I suspect it's positive 20, since I have non SHP 8" mounted to the front and given they are negative 10 offset, you can see that they should clear (note the pictures I posted) the FAQ clearly lists non shp 8" as negative offsethttp://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28098 I don't really know how or why SHP wheel offsets slowly got brought in to this, since no one in this thread is running SHP 8" I hope we are all clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Quick clarification question: If the Mookeeh 18mm RCA's barely fit, and his 25mm ones didn't fit any stock rims, what are the chances of a 35mm RCA fitting? I'm not trying to do anything but bolt them on, has this been addressed? Thanks running stock non SHP wheels in the stock location you will not be able to run these RCA's running SHP wheels in the stock location, you will not be able to run these RCA's It appears that a proper aftermarket wheel is required, OR, non SHP 8"s with minor mods (possibly clearancing the tie-rod end or using sticky weights.). the sun is out so I am going to bolt these up and take pictures today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 HERE IS THE CLEARANCE WITH A 16x8 with NEGATIVE 10 OFFSET http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8066/8252704787_0f8a61c536.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8222/8252704901_8d1b4af842.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patra_is_here Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 gabriel at TTT said he would shorten them for members who need em shorter. I don't mind shortening some of these up for people. Get too short and they won't do much good though. Gia & Gabriel Tyler www.TechnoToyTuning.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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