Mech Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 i have been following the oil spill off the gulf of mexico for while, but i read today apparently theres a lot more to it than what the mainstream media is reporting. So from what i have gathered this what happened: This is the farthest they have ever drilled down. The pressure was so great when they hit oil, it caused the oil rig to explode, catch fire, then sink. And it sank right above the leak. And that if the well head fails, it could release 10 times more than expected. And BP is saying that it could take 90 days to fix. 1000's of barrels a day times 90 days? wow.... they may have hit huge pocket of oil, maybe more than we have ever seen, and if the well head fails, and they cant contain it...then what? discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strang3majik Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I still think its a little odd how this happens not very long after the bill was okayed to drill out there. I'm no betting man, but, if I were, I say there is more to it, and that this was purposley done. (ie sabotage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mech Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I still think its a little odd how this happens not very long after the bill was okayed to drill out there. I'm no betting man, but, if I were, I say there is more to it, and that this was purposley done. (ie sabotage) yea, ive read that as well.... really though im more concerned with the enviromental impact than how it happened. Im betting this gets real ugly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starquestG54B Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 i think it was BUSH ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G54Bstore Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Yea me and the wife are gonna go out there and clean up some seagulls and what ever crap is covered in the worlds black juice.we calling our selves the green team.:\seems a shame .why the human race and the people in charge of our planet are so damn retarded.oh well one of those"it is what it is"situations.Got some friends in the seafood and resturant business here that are gonna lose their jobs over this situation because the price of seafood gonna double or triple.THANX BP FOR FN US IN OUT OF OUR JOBS!Damn sure wont buy any BP gas for the rest of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlrichWolf Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) I continually ask myself one question...... Having grown up in south Texas, naturally, you know the score on these things. That said, what happened to the blowout preventers? The blowout preventer is the part SPECIFICALLY designed for this type of event, and its sole function is to prevent what you are seeing here. They are saying that the leak is above the preventer, and they can't engage the preventer remotely. This sounds like something that could have been tested for long ago, and found out there was issue with. Call me tinfoil, call me consipracy theorist, but the thing mysteriously bursts into flames, sinks, AND the damn preventer fails? Someone's holding out on us. Tim Edited May 2, 2010 by UlrichWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 yea, ive read that as well.... really though im more concerned with the enviromental impact than how it happened. Im betting this gets real ugly.... It's going to freaking DESTROY the marshland. Back when I took oceanography I got to study that type of environment. It's fragile as hail! I'm less worried about how much oil is being lost and more worried about the impact its about to have all along the coast. Call me a tree hugger, but something of this scale is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquezzy Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Sister is an Environmental Lawyer, bet she is up someones tail for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bha280 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Yea, I'm pretty worried too. I am about to move back to Pensacola in June and am going to hate seeing those beautiful WHITE sand beaches turned black. Plus, so many people on the gulf coast depend on the water for work: fishing, diving,boat rentals, ship building, the list goes on. Definately going to do my part to help when I get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntercooledFlatty Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 stop the flow, light whats left out there on fire, and burn everything south of the lake to the ground. then, doze the land and build industrial yards. no reason the have residential areas there anyway because another "one" IS coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDX87Starion Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Well I think capping this thing off is going to be harder than they want us to know.Its a mile down and the remote subs havent been able to do it. I bet something will have to be custom built to stop it. They said one solution would be to drillanother well next to it to relieve the pressure. That does not sound like a quick fix. Could this take months to stop? If So, I doubt BP would say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoolinturbo Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 ok... stuff happens. Just like everyone is amazed planes crash, boats sink ect. It's a tragic event but inevitable no matter how many precautions you take. Murphys law is it? It's easy for everyone to point fingers. You can't blame BP, or the other company...they wanted the oil not the disaster so you know they worked hard to get to it. As much as everyone hates of shore drilling...u don't exactly want to pay 5-10 dollars a gallon do you? It's justified if you ask me. they are workin to clean it up...i think all those fisherman should be hired to help with their boats for clean up so I don't hear about another sob story for louisana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntercooledFlatty Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 i think all those fisherman should be hired to help with their boats for clean up they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdScrip Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) ok... stuff happens. Just like everyone is amazed planes crash, boats sink ect. It's a tragic event but inevitable no matter how many precautions you take. Murphys law is it? It's easy for everyone to point fingers. You can't blame BP, or the other company...they wanted the oil not the disaster so you know they worked hard to get to it. As much as everyone hates of shore drilling...u don't exactly want to pay 5-10 dollars a gallon do you? It's justified if you ask me. they are workin to clean it up...i think all those fisherman should be hired to help with their boats for clean up so I don't hear about another sob story for louisana Sure its justified that they were trying to get oil and lets just assume that it would keep prices down here. Nonetheless you still trusted the company to prevent something like this happening. Being strict about things helps keep such things from happening. If I borrowed your car to help you figure out whats wrong with it and I end up crashing it would we just say that stuff happens and its justified because I had a good intention? Edited May 3, 2010 by ColdScrip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 as long as it's the poor south in for trouble you won't hear much yelling but give it time once it hits the south fl beaches and the big fancy hotels are empty &%^($ will hit the fan, once it turns the corner and starts up the rich east coast oh my god are the tears gona flow one big question i got IS WHY IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY DRILLING IN OUR WATERS and selling it back to us BP is Britsh Patrolum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 We can try and blame the oil companies, the blowout preventers and all that stuff, but when it comes down to it, the pocket of oil they drilled into was bigger than they expected and possibly the biggest pocket found to date. Who's to say, maybe the pressures that go along with something that big were pressures that the blowout preventers and other oil drilling technology just flat out couldn't handle? the oil companies are prepared for any and all drilling problems that have been seen to date. What if this is something like they have never seen before, or could have expected? Then there's no way they could have been prepared for something like this. Just like 9/11. Governmental agencies and first responders in New York and other citites around the country were not prepared to deal with something like 9/11 brought about. I'm sure in someone's wildest dreams they could have seen that coming and prepared people better, but realistically, it takes tragedy to force the involved parties to step up their game. I'm sure if something similar happened now, things would be more in place and ready to go in order to run smoothly. Could they have better prepared before? Sure, and they could spend millions trying to prepare for every doomsday event brought to them by every conspiracy theorist in the world, but most will never happen. They need tangible evidence to know what they have to fight against, and without that, it's only a guesstimate. I bet that after this tragedy, it will help teach the oil companies so something like this will never happen again. My grandfather worked for Mobiloil from the time he was 17 until retirement. The last 25 years he worked for them, he headed up a team that was in charge of coming in and stopping blowouts and resolving other drilling "accidents" both offshore and on land. He's been following this whole deal very closely. I asked him his thoughts on it just a couple days ago, and he was flabbergasted. He said something like what happened is like nothing he's ever seen before, or even really thought was possible. He thinks the cause is mostly from the pressures involved in such a large oil find, but also a lot of other variables added to that which kind of made a bunch of worst-case scenerios happen all at once- very uncommon, unexpected and difficult to plan for. My grandfather is one of those old school hardasses that thinks there's nothing he couldn't do. That being said, he told me that he was glad he didn't have to be the guy in charge of fixing this problem, because he'd have no idea where to start, and he's one of those guys that will be the first to tell you he can fix anything. It's a tragedy for sure. I'm sure it will be much worse for the environment than the Valdez, and the NW is still suffering from problems brought up by that. Not only will the animals that live in or on the water be affected, but tons of fishermen will probably lose lots of money. At the same time, we can't forget that plenty of oil workers will be out of work because of it too. My cousin works for BP, and is now afraid he may be out on his tail soon because of production cuts and such. Most of all, we shouldn't forget the hundreds if not thousands of oil workers who have lost their lives in oil rig accidents- Many of whom lost their lives puting emergency safety equipment in place after accidents. People who all paid a huge sacrifice trying to prevent bad situations from getting worse and affecting innocent people and the environment. We have to have oil to live, simple as that. Even the biggest tree huggers out there NEED something that can only be made possible by oil. This is a tragedy that affects everyone, even if you don't live on the Gulf, or are a big oil exec. We all need the stuff and rather than having a witch hunt of the oil companies, or a bunch of conspiracy theories that are laughable at best, we need to all work together and solve the problem at hand, not place blame. Maybe I'm biased tho. My entire family has been built on oil. I am the first male in my family since the oil boom in the 30's to have never worked for an oil company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted77. Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Welp, like usual gas prices are jumping up too. B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Ah man... reports are coming in of dead turtles washing up on shore Guess it's started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_85stariones Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 This quote is spread throughout the forums throughout the internet...http://www.wallstreetbear.com/board/view.php?topic=68993&all=1 April 22nd is the oldest that I could find...http://greenblognetwork.posterous.com/ A reader who is an engineer of considerable experience says watch this one evolve carefully because it is destined to continue to grow and he shares this long (but worthy explanation why: "Heard your mention of the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico this morning, and you (and most everyone else except maybe George Noory) are totally missing the boat on how big and bad of a disaster this is.First fact, the original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_85stariones Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 The quote in my previous post... This could be environmental hype because -- what are the odds that an oil drilling rig would fall one mile down to the floor of the ocean and directly land on the hole, in spite of ocean currents swirlling on the way down? Wall Street Journal article...http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html?mod=igoogle_wsj_gadgv1&BUSINESS APRIL 28, 2010 Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device The oil well spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch used in two other major oil-producing nations as last-resort protection against underwater spills. The lack of the device, called an acoustic switch, could amplify concerns over the environmental impact of offshore drilling after the explosion and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy_85stariones Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) Best photos that I could find... http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/1.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/2.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/3.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/5.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/62.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/7.jpg http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/9.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/10.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/11.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/12.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/13.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/14.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/15.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/16.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/17.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/18.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/19.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/20.jpghttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii199/Yacht_master1/BP%20Horizon/21.jpg http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss102/OMBugge/Offshore%20Pics/DW%20Horizon/DeepwaterHorizonBuringandGoingdo-2.jpghttp://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss102/OMBugge/Offshore%20Pics/DW%20Horizon/DeepwaterHorizonBuringandGoingdo-3.jpghttp://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss102/OMBugge/Offshore%20Pics/DW%20Horizon/DeepwaterHorizonBuringandGoingdo-4.jpghttp://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss102/OMBugge/Offshore%20Pics/DW%20Horizon/DeepwaterHorizonBuringandGoingdo-5.jpghttp://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss102/OMBugge/Offshore%20Pics/DW%20Horizon/DeepwaterHorizonBuringandGoingdo-6.jpg Edited May 3, 2010 by indy_85stariones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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