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#1 Bag-O-Chips

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:30 PM

After a long battle with Sarsebolapox lol and a wicked cold I've actually gotten some progress done. I decided to change my build up just a little bit too.

I've been seeing some really amazing torque numbers out of fellow members and I figured I'd join the bandwagon :lol: So far the build has gone from top-end horsepower to brute force on the street. Thanks to Technology for his help also with his Proven 440hp Magna Manifold I'm going to be a bit more civilized and aim for mid 300HP's and if my math is correct...Mid to High 400's  in the Torque department.

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Non Jet-valve M28 casting
Schnieder's 296 solid cam
Schnieder's HD6610 Springs
Mechanical rockers - Thanks to satty07
DAD's 1mm oversized, back-cut, and swirl polished valves - Thanks to DAD
Technology's Magna Manifold - Thanks again Andrew!
Technology's RC1000cc injectors
Technology's Mustang 65mm TB
SX fuel pressure regulator
S.M.B. - Custom header
Garrett GT4088R
Synapse 50mm wastegate
Heron's 3" Exhaust
Trilogy Turbo's Billet Magna Fuel Rail - Heron
Fuelab Prodigy 41402 pump
Fuelab Billet filter 100 micron
Fuelab billet filter 10 micron
Parker Push-Lok -10AN and -6 fuel lines
MSD 6AL
MSD BTM
MSD DIY Street Fire Wireset
MegasquirtII V3.57 pcb
Psykore's Spare G54b motor :) - You the man Dustin!
4.62 Gear set - Thanks to Starquest Rescue
Griffin Radiator - JohnnyWadd



here's some of the progress pictures! Enjoy!
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I almost went through with this but I love the 2.6 :D
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More to come!

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E85, GT4088R, Dual Synapse 50mm wastegates, Apexi AVC-R, Griffin Radiator, 2G Eclipse Flexalite fans, AEM 30-1300, HKS 301 cam, LSP built Marnel head, Del West 1mm oversized Titanium valves, Del West Titanium Valve lock/retainers, LSP Valve Springs, 1600cc injectors, SX AFPR, Fuelab Prodigy 140gph pump, Fuelab Filter, Bag-O-Chips  Twin scroll header, Chad's MPI Manifold, 70mm Throttle, 4.62 gearset, Wiseco .030", R&R Aluminum billet Rods, ARP everything, Toyo R888's.






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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:36 PM

what clutch are you going to use?
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:55 PM

I never realized how much of a difference Undercut valves increase flow until I compared my two exhaust valves side by side...
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Not only that these valves are huge!
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Here's th little guy that i'm using to make those numbers
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here's a little cheat sheet I use for  37*/45* SAE and JIC fittings. (I'm gonna use 3000psi hydraulic hoses for fuel lines) Chemical resistant and temperature resistant FTW! even in a blast freezer :)
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I'll add more details as I go forward with the build. This sickness has been hitting me hard.  I think it almost killed Toadie when we were up at Satty07's place. By the time we drove back he looked like this
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:58 PM

View PostTechnology, on 25 October 2010 - 07:36 PM, said:

what clutch are you going to use?

I'm gonna see if I can get my money's worth out of my centerforce/fidanza setup right now. Then when it kicks the bucket I'll throw in a Spec stage 4 or 5. I know it's over kill but I'm aiming for really heavy forces going through the trans... AND! I got dibbs on my neighbors MkIV Supra 6speed :D

I might have to call Bill... :huh:

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E85, GT4088R, Dual Synapse 50mm wastegates, Apexi AVC-R, Griffin Radiator, 2G Eclipse Flexalite fans, AEM 30-1300, HKS 301 cam, LSP built Marnel head, Del West 1mm oversized Titanium valves, Del West Titanium Valve lock/retainers, LSP Valve Springs, 1600cc injectors, SX AFPR, Fuelab Prodigy 140gph pump, Fuelab Filter, Bag-O-Chips  Twin scroll header, Chad's MPI Manifold, 70mm Throttle, 4.62 gearset, Wiseco .030", R&R Aluminum billet Rods, ARP everything, Toyo R888's.


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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:55 PM

DUDE. when you get your car driving....I'm coming out there and your taking me for a ride so I can feel what a lot of power feels like lol. Mini meet maybe?

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:14 PM

You got it! we don't have to many local guys in the Lake/Cook County area though :( I think it's me you and the toad.

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#7 Bag-O-Chips

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 11:42 PM

Alrighty then, Megasquirt II is on the way aswell as a 12' harness. I don't recall who told me that but THANKS!!! you saved my butt hours of time!!. I finally got back from the welding shop (i don't have an inverter TIG welder ) to get the Elbow put on the Compressor housing. I've been looking at most MPI setups and I'm gonna try to get the shortest route possible with the intercooler piping. Another thing I noticed from a few proven MPI set-up are the stepped piping. When the garage isn't so cold I'm gonna draw up a 2.25" from the turbo to the Intercooler and 2.5" from the intercooler to the TB. But for the mean while here's a pic! :D
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 12:00 AM

I see you're running on booze too. lol.
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:18 AM

Thats what they call " Friction Modifier"  :lol:

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 12:48 PM

How's it going with this? You must have some updates for this thread.
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Posted 02 January 2011 - 07:37 PM

^ plus one would like to see an update on this as well.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:00 PM

I don't really have too many updates as of yet, but!!!

The rods I ordered are going to take a bit of time to get made. They are billet forged XXXX alloy aluminum rods by R&R Connecting Rods.
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Pistons are ordered too, Wiseco 92mm units with an 8.8:1 compression ratio

and the virgin crank has to be sent out with the rotating assembly to be lightened up. The pistons are going to be lightened up by a few grams, the crank is getting lightened and bull nosed too. It's just a waiting game right now. I gotta wait for the rods and pistons before I send out the crank for any kind of work. :(  

My build just got interesting...

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:05 PM

make sure u leave the piston in the hole atleast.020, those aluminum rods stretch quite a bit over time.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 11:07 PM

from the research I've been doing, .020" +/- .002" seems to be the magic number. According to R&R.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:33 AM

Also, if you don't daily drive it, you shouldn't worry about them stretching much.
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 07:35 AM

did you check that front cam tower oil hole on that M28 head?
i got a M28 and had to drill it out like indiana had stated.
it was so small it could not be possible to oil the cam assembly.

be sure to check it out.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 02:05 PM

View Postimportwarrior, on 03 January 2011 - 07:35 AM, said:

did you check that front cam tower oil hole on that M28 head?
i got a M28 and had to drill it out like indiana had stated.
it was so small it could not be possible to oil the cam assembly.

be sure to check it out.
Thanks for the tip! I'll pull that cap off and ream it out. I noticed it was kinda small compared to the oe T casting I got right now...

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 12:02 AM

kinda late for updates but here's the new stuff for the build :D
Fuelab Billet filters
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Fuelab Prodigy fuelpump. DC brushless with a built in controller, 140gph...
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the black pump will feed the Swirl pot, and the red will feed the motor.
-10 lines up to the filter then necking down to -6 at the rail :(

I'm tempted to by the trilogy fuel rail now ;)

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 08:30 AM

Looks like things are coming along nicely! although a little slow ;)
Any particular reason you went with the billet rods? Aside from the obvious weight. Imo shot peened and recon'd stock rods are plenty strong enough for us sub 500 HP guys needs. Don't get me wrong. They are beautiful, just curious.
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 09:11 AM

I went with the billet rods because of the mass itself, it's twice the size of the Stock rod and at the same time they are twice as light. When I called for the rods I asked them how much does this rod stretch and the engineers there made their proprietary allow so dense it wouldn't stretch like their competitors rods. They also said if you had  to daily drive the car it would be possible.

...this car a daily, not in this lifetime. :lol:

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