eviper21 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) unlike the stock cam...this one sticks out the back of the head and has threaded holes in it.. i bought the head on ebay....its a universal 2.6 head, mechanical non-jet valve... so it doesnt have the feul pump block off plate (which i need if neone has one) and this cam setup which is really weird http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q310/eviper21/0731091705-01.jpg its hard to tell , but theres threads in there http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q310/eviper21/0731091705-00.jpg Edited August 4, 2009 by eviper21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strang3majik Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 That head is off of a FWD 2.6L. The cam has a pulley attatched to it on those that turns the water pump which is mounted on the (our back) of the engine. Also, that head will have different valves then the turbo one...as well as a couple other things I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 have you check'd to see if a valve caover will fit,,some very early 2.6 heads use'd a diff valve cover,, if the cover fits,, you got two choices,, thats a head off of a frt whl drv car,, you can install two rear cam seals and go or remove the cam cut off the rear part that protrudes and use a std quest rear cam plug ,, on a fwd car that is where the water pump drive pully is mount'd ,,other then that it's the same cam as a turbo quest uses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviper21 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 what do you mean install two rear cam seals??? id rather not cut it up...but ill do what i have to do and yes the valcover fits like it was made for a quest thanks for the quick reply guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 you have part of the cam sticking out of the head right,, it has a seal,many years ago it was found that 2 seals work way better then just one ,, and it became standard pratice to install 2 seals when ever replaceing the rear cam seals , theres plenty of room for the two seals but Stang is also right in that the exh valves aren't turbo valves,, and most likely the springs aren't turbo spec springs eather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 http://www.b2600turbo.com/images/2.6fwdh2opump.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couth'nize Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Dodge Caravan head (thinking '84-'87).....replace the valves with the turbo one's,good low end torque with that cam and mechanical setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice_2 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 looks like an aussie magna head. check near the exhaust ports for a casting mark if it has m6 or m7 its the go hard magna head. just cut off the back done it a million times on the roller cams no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Its just a FWD cam in the same head. Van, car etc. Its usually called a caravan head because everyone has forgot that there were just as many but more fwd CARS that used this motor and all the heads were the same and ALL THE CAMS were the same. The ONLY difference in a FWD Vs RWD cam is that it just is longer stub on the back to mount a pulley that drives the water pump. This motor was in vehicles all over the world FWD and RWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice_2 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 one other point if its not a turbo cam ditch it and use the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie88TSi Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 It's just a plain old FWD N/A 2.6 replacement head, nothing special to it. As stated before, the grinds are the exact same between turbo and non-turbo engines. Only difference to really concern himself with is the lack of turbo exhaust valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviper21 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 hey shelby, when you talk about seals are you talking about the round metal plug that sticks into there (between the cam tower and head)?? ...is there a special one for this head? like should i go ask for a cam seal for a 83 caravan?? lol and yes i know the valve deal....and i believe the springs are lighter to....i just neeeed the car running soon, so i can get it to school....so im not worried about that...but eventually ill buy stainless valves and a bigger cam and schnieder springs and overhaul the head.... but im sure the valves will hold for now if i keep the temps low enough and the boost to a minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice_2 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 the difference between n/a and turbo is the lobe centres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 yes ask for 2 cam seals you'l be fine,, rtv the outter edges of the seals , and remove the old ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviper21 Posted August 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 cool thanks shelby what difference does cam lobe center make?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_C. Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 The '86 - 2.6L Caravan rear cam seal is what you want. 2 of them. The reason you need two is because the cam is most likely grooved from the seal. This allows oil to get past easier. 2 seals assures a better seal and better protection against crank case pressure pushing the oil out on the turbo engine. The naturally aspirated 2.6L cams are the exact same as the turbo cams. We have matched the grinds to be the same. Maybe a .003 difference in lift, but that is more a difference between mech and hyd. The #1 intake lobe center is ground to be installed at 107 degrees BTDC. The lobe separations are the same too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 the difference between n/a and turbo is the lobe centresNot over "here", for your Magna roller cams and the non roller cams perhaps but all the cams we have over here in the States are the same the only difference was in 85 they came out with hydraulic lifters so the lift changed by an amount about the same as what the mechanical screws lash was. The rear seal on a FWD cam is just an oil seal. You can buy them everywhere. Since the water pump pulley protected the seal to a point some believe its better insurance to use two seals, one for the oil to stay in and one for the dirt to stay out. Problem is, where does the oil come from the lubricate the outer 2nd seal? There isn't any place for it to come from. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/p...rentId=cat30061 Go to an auto parts store and ask for a rear cam seal for any FWD 2.6 mopar from the early 80s http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/p...rentId=cat30061 Felpro / Camshaft Seal For your 1985 Chrysler Town & Country 2.6L 2BL 4cyl part number TCS45847 Price: $2.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Dont Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Just lop that end off, my cam was done that way with no problems or leaks what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Indy if you count the oil the single seal miss's the 2'd gets enought ,, if you use one seal it will leak,, i spent a few years in a chyr dealer ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviper21 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 so its a seal like the front or rear crank seals?? just smaller of course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty07 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 From what I gather, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_C. Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 so its a seal like the front or rear crank seals?? just smaller of course? Yes, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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