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R 154 trans mated to the 4G63 narrow block


Bill Hincher
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  • 2 weeks later...

drilling the bellhousing is an exact phase, all the previous work is no good if it dont line up. this is a center plate keyed to the rear of the bellhousing to index the raw casting in the right direction

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/62rethinkingr154.jpg

i like to use the flywheel I am using to center a raw casting, yeah, theres probably a lot of ways to do this , but you know? thats the flywheel thats gotta spin in the housing for a lot of time to come .;o)

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/65rethinkingr154.jpg

now that I have the raw casting chucked into the bridgeport in the proper index, i can drill it to the engine this is drilled to an AWD flywheel, I can drill my bellhousings to either an AWD or a FWD unit

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/66rethinkingr154.jpg

I add my seperater plates at this time because each one is a little different, I cant make them wholesale

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/67rethinkingr154.jpg

a lot of guys want to know how i center the transmission, the answer is kinda easy, I built a plate with the engine bolt pattern on it, then I index the plate to center

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/68rethinkingr154.jpg

I use inserts to imitate the engine bolt pattern , then mount the bellhousing on my imitation engine block

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/69rethinkingr154.jpg

I drill in my transmission guide pins next just to test the center, dont forget the trans facing must be indexed just as well as the engine plate, so everything must be 'in phase' that was per done when I used the backing plate to 'key' the raw casting before I drilled the facing

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/70rethinkingr154.jpg

I like to test center at this piont

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/71rethinkingr154.jpg

then I like to clean up all the mounting bolt surfaces with a home made cutter

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/72rethinkingr154.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/75rethinkingr154.jpg

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Hi Bill,

 

Any updates on the wideblock version for the r154 trans? Is it still going to be coming down the pipe or do I need to look for another solution? From the look of your work, I hope its still on the table. :thumbsup:

 

Thanks!

 

Tom

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yes Tom,

Its in roughed out shape now,

 

I had to build some new tools for testing the different input shaft lengths in the T 56

 

 

this summer I built the w55/59 into the EVO option, the narrow block R 154 into an EVO version, and the T 56 into the long input shaft/narrow block version, I also started work on the T 5 trans

 

I found a G54b wide block engine and trans and I mocked everything up to re use all the Starion clutch controls, then I built the rear plate for the R 154 and have assebled the sckeliton of the frame work,

 

I intend to post some pic's this week and get'r done this month, we must be on the same page

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yes Tom,

Its in roughed out shape now,

 

I had to build some new tools for testing the different input shaft lengths in the T 56

 

 

this summer I built the w55/59 into the EVO option, the narrow block R 154 into an EVO version, and the T 56 into the long input shaft/narrow block version, I also started work on the T 5 trans

 

I found a G54b wide block engine and trans and I mocked everything up to re use all the Starion clutch controls, then I built the rear plate for the R 154 and have assebled the sckeliton of the frame work,

 

I intend to post some pic's this week and get'r done this month, we must be on the same page

 

Bill, that's great news, thanks for the update! Can't wait to see the pics!!

 

Have you thought about making your own shifter housings at all by chance? My trans didn't come with one, and of course I cannot locate one for the life of me. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

Tom

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yeah. i did some drawings on the shifter, I picked up a Starion with no drive line and over the summer i found all the pieces I need to mock up the assembly, I want to see what is needed to locate the shifter correctly for all the different transmissions and then build a good unit

 

http://billsautofab.com/images/shifterextension.JPG

 

this is kinda how I would do it , but I am looking for something a little simpler

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the input shaft in the r 154 has to pass through the flywheel center and into the crankshaft to get a full engagment to the clutch disc spline, its not that big a deal ,acually, its only a matter of 1/8 inch, but the guys are building so much horsepower out of the 4 G 63, I think its wise to find every advatage possible, so I moved the trans forward

the shifter can be done much easier with just a different shifting yoke replaced in the trans, i was just toying with the idea of being able to control shift swing and gate movement ( I like a good solid close'feel' to a shifter) I have shifters that 'swim' to find the gear

 

I did some more work on the wide block bellhousing and i will be posting pic's shortly, its coming along nicely

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Very cool - definitely like the idea of a tighter, shorter throw shift... does a stock r154 pilot bearing just fit right into the g54b crankshaft? never tried it before. :)

 

Looking forward to the pics! Thanks again for the updates and the work you're doing.

 

Tom

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  • 4 months later...

this is the R 154 connected to the 4G63 narrow block

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154bellhousingkit8.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154bellhousingkit9.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154bellhousingkit10.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154bellhousingkit12.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/R154bellhousingkit16.jpg

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This is a special order EVO internal throw out bearing unit for the R 154 , for a friend in Norway

 

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment26.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment27.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment28.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment29.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment30.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment31.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment32.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment33.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment35.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment36.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment37.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment38.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment39.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment40.jpg.JPG

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/EVO_R-154bellhousingdevelopment41.jpg.JPG

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This applies to all the Toyota transmissions, this just happens to be an R 154 but it will work on the W series just as easy that long rod with the finger at the end of it is the key to building the remote shifter that is low enough to fit under the trans tunnel and move the shifter back as far as I wanted

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter.jpg

you can see here how the finger fits in the three shiftshafts to move the R 154 through all the different gear selections

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter11.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter14.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter13.jpg

 

 

at the other end of the shaft away from the finger end I built this recepter at an angle in an attempt to keep the shaft low, I built this as a starter project, I will take the numbers I found here and continue to lower it further

I built a couple pillar blocks and found the correct numbers to build the shift ratio for the sideways motion in the shifter, it was about 72%

 

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter37.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter33.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter35.jpg

 

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter36.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter15.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter16.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter19.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter18.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter21.jpg

 

I cut away the rear housing so I could see the shift motion in all gears, it shift as smooth as silk >;o)

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter23.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter25.jpg http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter27.jpg

http://www.billsautofab.com/images/remoteshifter28.jpg

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What is the best way to contact you about a bellhousing? I've been on your web site and can't find a email or phone #. Thanks.

 

just google my name bill hincher its like having your phone number on the bathroom wall at the Ramada inn :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

japaneseauto1978@yahoo.com

 

3505 W. Alexis rd

Toledo,Ohio

419 367 1758 cell

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just google my name bill hincher its like having your phone number on the bathroom wall at the Ramada inn :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

japaneseauto1978@yahoo.com

 

3505 W. Alexis rd

Toledo,Ohio

419 367 1758 cell

 

LMAO..except your good time comes in a box....and won't steal your shyt!!!

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