4NMOPAR Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Ok, besides reading a few posts and knowing this is beyond me at this point, I understand it adds more fuel and makes it burn more effectively but what does it take to do and cost obviously has a part in it. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Ok, besides reading a few posts and knowing this is beyond me at this point, I understand it adds more fuel and makes it burn more effectively but what does it take to do and cost obviously has a part in it. thanks Its all about efficiency. Period. MPI is leaps and bound more efficient over TBI or carb'd. That's the entire basis for the swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 The air traveles though the runners more easily, and mixes better with the fuel, both lead to more efficency > greater power from a given input. the stock TBI has a threshold which prohibits power to be made beyond a certain air flow, this threshold is much higher on a good MPI design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremeboost Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Chad this is Frank in Orlando , I've been trying to get a hold of you for the pass few weeks . Drop me an e-mail or give me a call at 407-973-8714 , thats my cell you can reach me ther until around 11pm your time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4NMOPAR Posted July 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 ok, I get that much, no what is required to do this then and should I even worry about it w/o built internals and a small 12g for now at 7-12 psi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Man you just need to search the MPI forum. We aren't going to spell it out and price it out for you, its all on here you just have to find it. Search works GREAT now with the new site as of a month ago so take advantage of it! The old site had 7 pages of mpi threads, dont' know how many pages it changed over to with the new format. Just read thru all of them and you'll come out an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Man you just need to search the MPI forum. We aren't going to spell it out and price it out for you, its all on here you just have to find it. Search works GREAT now with the new site as of a month ago so take advantage of it! The old site had 7 pages of mpi threads, dont' know how many pages it changed over to with the new format. Just read thru all of them and you'll come out an expert. Every post from the last board transfered over. I'd put a least 2-2500K aside for a MPI swap. It aint cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think I spent mid 4K but that was all the bells and whistles to go along with a what hoped to be a high horespower'd mpi car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr4mnceMan Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 $700 intake$1451 SDS$300 72lb injectors$200 an fittings/lines$75 for hall sensor bracket and modification to pulley$50ish for solid crank pulley. So, about 2800 just in the MPI part. Look like I spent well over $4500 all together. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think I spent mid 4K but that was all the bells and whistles to go along with a what hoped to be a high horespower'd mpi car. Oh I hear ya..I spent WELL over $2500...but I didn't cut any corners either... Hang in there man... I've been in the same boat and now I think I finally got the winning combo... It taken me 10 years to get to where I am... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesR Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I was able to do my setup for $1232, but no bells and whistles. I went for more of a basic setup. I just wanted a more reliable setup then the old TBI system. Plus I got few more horses in the deal. 1st GP Magna intake - $3801st GP SDS fuel only ecu - $610rx7 turbo II injectors - $80everything else - $162total - $1232 So basically, I'm running the magna with SDS fuel only ecu and the stock ignition system with a MSD box. Took me 6 years to get my MPI car to it's current level and I'm still not done with it. I've been playing with starquest's for over 15 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev_rm Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 i put about 2700 into mine. which is 200 more than I paid for the car. :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4NMOPAR Posted July 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 ok I"ll take this as a hint and keep reading , thanks. my bad - really though I'm SO new right now and I had no idea it was so involved so it's cool and I'll get there eventually. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 ok I"ll take this as a hint and keep reading , thanks. my bad - really though I'm SO new right now and I had no idea it was so involved so it's cool and I'll get there eventually. thanks Hey we all have been new at one point. We'll all try to help as best we can...that's why we got this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siance Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wow, thats a lot of cash just for MPI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_ss Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wow, thats a lot of cash just for MPI Not really, MPI alone is worth the cost... Add up what you have in your mods and I bet it's close to 1500 if not more. Even with those mods, a roughly tuned MPI will make higher numbers with that same turbo, than what you could pull.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted_One Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 wow, thats a lot of cash just for MPI Not really, MPI alone is worth the cost... Add up what you have in your mods and I bet it's close to 1500 if not more. Even with those mods, a roughly tuned MPI will make higher numbers with that same turbo, than what you could pull.... Plus you get all updated sensors, injectors, electronics, wiring, etc...for what 1 stock injector costs I can get 4 new Bosch Style injectors alone. It really isn't cheap to do the swap...you almost gotta just love the car to wanna do it to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr_ss Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 wow, thats a lot of cash just for MPI Not really, MPI alone is worth the cost... Add up what you have in your mods and I bet it's close to 1500 if not more. Even with those mods, a roughly tuned MPI will make higher numbers with that same turbo, than what you could pull.... Plus you get all updated sensors, injectors, electronics, wiring, etc...for what 1 stock injector costs I can get 4 new Bosch Style injectors alone. It really isn't cheap to do the swap...you almost gotta just love the car to wanna do it to be honest. But that's what it's all about anyways, for the love of the cars.... Sure I could go buy a DSM or a Silvia conversion, crap maybe even turbo a Honda, but they are a dime a dozen. How many SQ's do you see out there producing 300 plus hp at the wheels and still have room to grow? Not many. Take a look at Art's dyno graphs that he recently produced. He has 300 plus hp from 5k to 7k, if he gets a better turbo suited to his engine he'll be able to pull alot higher numbers, simply because of the fact that the turbo doesn't spool and create high boost until his prime rpms are almost out the window .... I dunno, I do this for fun and for love of these cars, not because I want to make huge power. If I wanted that, I would've been else where and spent countless thousands on another project... But here I am, and standing proud to be the owner of a 2.6l SOHC MPI conversion... Wow, I just went out on a tangent there.... But you get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4NMOPAR Posted July 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 hey no prob I got it and thanks for the lowdown on it, everyone's got there wants right ! cyall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu_Crash Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 I love my car more than words can explain... it's just that i don't have the $$. All in good time ... I still used to pull 317 Wheel HP with the TBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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