ZacMan Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Don't know about cambering it up too much, will chew through tyres too fast, it's going to be the daily. There are also some pretty strict certification rules here regarding permissable camber angles. I'll have a play though, would love to keep it that low and fat, but I just don't think there will ever be enough room for suspension travel AND steering, hah . Wheels are CR Kai knockoffs, Rota Torques. 17 x 9.5 in the rear, 17 x 9.0 in the front, both 12P offset. Tyres are 235/40-17's in the back, and 215/45-17 in the front. [edit] both ends currently have 25mm spacers fitted too [/edit] Edited March 29, 2013 by ZacMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted March 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Slight mis-calculation today.... Bunnings, Mitre-10 and Placemakers are all closed, so no metal cutting jig-saw blades for me! Still made some progress on the manifold. Need the blades to cut the plates for either side. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P3310001_1024x768_zpsbbcebf9a.jpg Would have been easier to cut the doughnut sections with a jig-saw, but I made an okay job of it with the angle grinder. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P3310002_1024x768_zpsf2b6fd78.jpg Now that I can really look at it, it's apparent that the runners can be a good 40mm shorter and still leave clearance for the distributor, that puts them here: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P3310004_1024x768_zps15f1766a.jpg Which looks much much better. Will shorten them at Dad's work this evening to fit the base plate properly. It's coming together though. After this is done, that's the end of the fun stuff, as I'll have to figure out something for the water piping / thermostat housing.... Not 100% sure what to do there yet, but will figure something out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convette Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Let me know when your done building my dream car..lol Very nice man. Inspiring work to say the least. So done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 would it be better to put a dual cam head on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Convette - Swaps? Import Warrior - That's what the black car is for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 That is one sexy flatty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Part of building the new engine loom for the evo V ecu involved tidying up the front body loom. I recently bought the mitsubishi workshop manuals for 86 australian, european and geenral export starions, including the wiring supplement. Armed with this information, I stripped all the insulation off the body loom from the driver side guard grommet forward, and re-routed things to make it a bit neater. Only had to adjust the length of a couple of wires. I'm moving the alternator to the other side of the engine, so I ran new wires for the feed to the drivers side sub fusible links, and the main relay box. Battery is going in the boot now too, as I need the space it used to occupy for the intercooler piping. Ran some nice double insulated 35mm^2 cable, which I'll get a friend to crimp some nice terminals onto at some stage over the next week. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P6090001_1024x768_zpscaffd9fa.jpgA bit tidier than factory. I'm going to leave it mostly un-insulated for the moment until it's running, so if I need to make any adjustments it wont be as time-consuming. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P6090002_1024x768_zpse8e47af0.jpgI tried to minimise the number of branches coming out of the main loom. The factory setup has stuff coming out of it at heaps of places, looks a bit mank. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P6090003_1024x768_zps07b71e48.jpgPlugs I dont need: A/C condensor fan, A/C high pressure switch, and vacuum pump for the speed control system. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P6090004_1024x768_zps4eee289c.jpgAnother plug I dont need, the factory radiator fan and thermoswitch. Might end up using it however, having the ECU control one of the fans, and the other hooked up directly to a thermoswitch in the radiator as a backup? Nah, probably overkill. Will get some more welding done on my intake manifold this afternoon, as the weather is turning crappy now, so best to be working inside. Ive hopefully sorted some storage for the black car, so I can get the red car in the garage sometime in the next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Venable Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I like how your tidying up the stock wiring, I may have to follow suit as I try a wire tuck, will probably make things easier. Looking great btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 It was a bit of a pain of a job to begin with, I was trying to keep track of what branched out where, and where everything went through the radiator support. Once I committed to just stripping all the insulation, and deciding on where the branches should be and how it should go through the firewall myself, it was way easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Took a day off uni today and work on the car for what feels like the first time in ages. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8270008_zps50de0b01.jpg Got all the brakes re-fitted. New discs, pads, re-kitted calipers and braided lines at each corner. Needed doing really really badly as the brakes were pretty ******** when I got the car. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8270009_zps164201ec.jpg Fitted an intercooler. I wasn't have a very good welding day, but its done and doesnt look too bad. Fills the air-dam out nicely, and you can see the pipe either side through the brake-vent holes, which I reckon looks pretty cool ;-). A final shot if it looking moody in the garage. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8270011_zps049ebf7a.jpg Engine is away at the reconditioners being bored to fit the .5mm over pistons. Plus a bunch of other stuff with them for cleaning. Hopefully might get it running sometime before the end of the year. I've got a wedding in december though... so that might be a bit of a pipe-dream, heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technology Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Well it looks awesome, and that engine work (both mechanical and wiring-wise) looks like fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Cheers mate :-). Definately please the majority of work on this car is engine and wiring related, as those are things I can handle. Bodywork is something I should be kept very very far away from ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Couldn't resist taking another couple of hours off study today while the car mojo was flowing. Made this, it turned out pretty nicely: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8280004_zps3b5124b9.jpg It mounts these: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8280007_zpsbf6d5b1c.jpg Up here, behind the glovebox: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8280002_zps632bb664.jpg There is still heaps of clearance for the heater blower. Should keep the Fan, ECU, and Ignition relays nice and hidden. Fuel pump relay is getting mounted down in the boot to minimise the length of the power wires to it, as the battery is also in the boot. The original fuel pump wire can be used for the trigger from the evo V ECU, so no running extra wires the length of the vehicle :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Couldn't resist taking another couple of hours off study today while the car mojo was flowing. Made this, it turned out pretty nicely: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8280004_zps3b5124b9.jpg It mounts these: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8280007_zpsbf6d5b1c.jpg Up here, behind the glovebox: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/P8280002_zps632bb664.jpg There is still heaps of clearance for the heater blower. Should keep the Fan, ECU, and Ignition relays nice and hidden. Fuel pump relay is getting mounted down in the boot to minimise the length of the power wires to it, as the battery is also in the boot. The original fuel pump wire can be used for the trigger from the evo V ECU, so no running extra wires the length of the vehicle :-). Very clean and very trick. My compliments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Another stolen couple of hours in the garage this afternoon, shhhh, don't tell! Re-did a little bit of previous work, with is never nice. Much tidier result and this one will actually fit properly ;-). Still have to put on the trim mounting bits, but that can wait. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/P8290001_zps573968ce.jpg http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/P8290003_zpse50ce283.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I won't tell...wait...why am I whispering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 ^d8s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Updates are coming, promise. Black car is in storage, I'm trying to give it to my Father, as he needs something to do :-). Red car is coming along though. I got tied up finishing my degree and getting married... But I've actually been working on the red car the last month and will have some details in the near future, some fun stuff! :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've been doing the odd bit of work on this. I bought a set of autoliv generic replacement seatbelts (60-90, and 120-90 for anyone that needs them) and had a local company de-web them, and thread on the original emergency buckle fitting, and trim peices for where they pass through the door skins. I mucked about for ages carefully removing the upper mounts from the old belts, and grafting them onto the autoliv ones. It makes setting their operation angle super easy. I managed to fit a set of factory central locking motors from a US widebody. Was super easy on the passengers side door, which is original to the car and has the later model internal pressing with all the correct mounting points in place... I had to make a template and invert it to transfer the mounting points to my drivers door, which is off and earlier model and didn't have them... It all worked out pretty nicely though. I also scavenged a whole bunch of Yazaki 58 Type S connectors from various mid 90's nissans at the local junkyard, so I can build new door looms following the factory specs. I really need to find a bunch of money to throw at it now, as there are several jobs I'm part way through that require purchases to complete... First on the list is a pair of Nissan S13 D2 coilover lower mounts, as they're one of the major puzzle pieces to this swap: http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/IMG_20140409_130213_zpsd8b18c03.jpg I'm going about it the same way a guy in Aussie did back in the day, as its the only way to use an S13 rack that makes sense to me. Swapping in the entire front suspension setup means someone else (Nissan) has already did the math for me. By swapping to S13 stuff, I lose some of benefits of having the uber long control arms that Starions have, but as my front suspension will be working over a much smaller range overall, It should be fine. Plus I get access to the lego that is nissan brakes. Or it'll be a complete clusterfuck, and I'll set it on fire and push it over a cliff http://oldschool.co.nz/2011/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-R-Quest Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Your rack is mounted backwards... oh wait... nevermind. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 The S13 lower D2 mounts came in (thanks Scarles), got things mocked up again. It's as suspected, the S13 lower arms are just a bit too long. With the camber adjustability on the lower mounts all the way to positive, there is still around 3-4 deg of negative camber. I could correct this with the top hats, but it would add so much track to the front the wheels would no longer fit under the guards. http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/IMG_20140416_143326_zpsfdc878b0.jpg http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/IMG_20140416_143454_zps47e2bb7b.jpg http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/IMG_20140416_143535_zpsbc8f9c8e.jpg My internet research leads me to believe that R31 control arms should fit the S13 lower crossmember and knuckles, with the same angle on the balljoint, but are ~20mm shorter. I'll track down a pair of those and give them a shot. If they still aren't going to work, I'll shorten some and get them right. The R32/Z32 brakes clear the wheel nicely, the wheel has full range lock to lock and clears the inner fender currently too. It's currently 5mm further back than when I started, but the crossmember isn't welded together yet, so I just need to nudge the base structure forward 5mm, and it should be copacetic :-) Getting there piece by piece :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-R-Quest Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Again, great info. Keep it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoFab Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Me likey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacMan Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Finally found a 9k tach. Will add in my 260kph speedo, and swap out the amp gauge for a volt gauge (requires slight rewire, but is easy) and that'll be the cluster sorted :-). http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx141/ProZac83/Starion%20Project/IMG_20140714_191147_zps2bb9c642.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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