Minagera Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yes only a day later form everyone on the internet protesting SOPA, US Prosecutors put a moratorium on the largest file sharing giant MegaUpload. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/technology/indictment-charges-megaupload-site-with-piracy.html?_r=1 Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natallica Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 This kind of thing sucks...just when I was used to not paying for music/movies and apps anymore. -N8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apedog Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Just saw that.. I hope they dont get to thepiratebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdScrip Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 And they have a new site up already: http://megavideo.bz/ good luck regulating the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy2222 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 pirate bay owners got into a huge legal battle a couple of years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdScrip Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Theres a large internet community based DDOS attack going on. You can follow it here: Basically the hit websites with tons of requests that the websites go down as they cant handle all the requests. They are doing it to SOPA supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmwii Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 SOPA and PIPA are badly written laws, and i am wholeheartedly against them, but protecting people's intellectual property rights is important. stealing someone's creative work is the same as stealing a tangible good. both have time and labor invested, and both represent someone's livelihood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Theres a large internet community based DDOS attack going on. You can follow it here: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews Basically the hit websites with tons of requests that the websites go down as they cant handle all the requests. They are doing it to SOPA supporters. I'm still amused at how they took down the fbi.gov and dept of justice websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesfer Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://jalopnik.com/5877811/this-is-what-megauploads-kim-schlitzs-cars-being-seized-looks-like The MegaUpload owner had a nice car collection... and they are all gone now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_StarionTSI Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 SOPA and PIPA are badly written laws, and i am wholeheartedly against them, but protecting people's intellectual property rights is important. stealing someone's creative work is the same as stealing a tangible good. both have time and labor invested, and both represent someone's livelihood. Yeah, but thats the persons responsibility to look out for their own property. Now, someone steals $100 from your bank account, no one will do anything to get your money back unless you do something about it, go over the statements & transactions and PROVE it was your money and taken illegally, and then action is taken to the thief. Same goes to copyright laws. Its the owners responsibility to track those people down. not the gov. job. The copyright office is their to HELP you and have proof that its your idea/property. They are your backup, not your hunter. They are trying to come up with an excuse to control the internet. They are control freaks. But hey, there's idiots out there that will buy into it. Lets just hope the majority of Americans aren't that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmwii Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 if your car disappeared tonight, you'd call the cops, right? they're the government. if you try to enforce the law, you'll likely be the one getting arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarisman14 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 The FCC has been doing this for years. They're a lot worse IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 It has officially been shelved for the time being http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_StarionTSI Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 if your car disappeared tonight, you'd call the cops, right? they're the government. if you try to enforce the law, you'll likely be the one getting arrested. It's not the same thing. I meant if someone steals your idea, you can file a lawsuit and you have the copyright office back you up. Now, someone steals your car, the police will be your backup. The police doesn't go looking for your car unless you tell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's not the same thing. I meant if someone steals your idea, you can file a lawsuit and you have the copyright office back you up. Now, someone steals your car, the police will be your backup. The police doesn't go looking for your car unless you tell them. if someone uploads your new song off your hit album and 5,555,555 people steal it, you have to sue 5,555,555 people for 5 cents each. You are still out hundreds of thousands in lost revenue because no one will buy your album when they already have it for free, but you can't sue because no lawyer will take your case. The copyright office will do nothing for you, but to say "yep, you can sue all 5,555,555 people if you want". that is what they are trying to protect, not one idea that one person may want to steal, but one ideal/thought/creation that many will want to steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_StarionTSI Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Yeah but that's impossible, even by shutting down every website in the world, people will buy CDs and burn them like they used to. Sure it's less people stealing but it's not going to stop them. I understand what they want to accomplish, but it just cant be done. Technology is far too advanced. But like I said, I don't think the gov should go out looking for these people. It's a real in depth Arguement. But regardless, trying to control the Internet is just asking for a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmwii Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 the solution is simple - if there is a site that is hosting materials (or that is directly promoting the downloading of materials) that the copyright holder request be taken down then the site complies or is shut down. youtube is quite aggressive in their self-policing and compliance efforts when it comes to copyrighted materials, and no one is shutting them down. sites like megaupload that tacitly endorse piracy should and will be shut down. clean up your own house, or the law will do it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Everybody speeds to, should we get rid of speed limits? we don't want to arrest every person that smokes dope, we prefer to just get the dealers off the streets. Limits availability, and subsequently reduces demand. Same concept. these sites are stolen intellectual property dealers, and they are the target. SOPA may be over-zelous, and if so, i'm glad to see it get stopped, but I don't want to see dealers openly deal without consequence, whether it's drugs or stolen property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_StarionTSI Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 It can go both ways. It's an honest gamble. The main thing about that bill is that it's a way for them to control the Internet. Something else they can control, and it's not nationally, it's global. So it's kinda like barging in and saying you're in control. The Internet is one of few places you can still go to, do whatever you want and no one tell you anything. People look up the most insane things just outta curiousity. I just think its a way for the gov to take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 The Internet is one of few places you can still go to, do whatever you want and no one tell you anything. People look up the most insane things just outta curiousity. I just think its a way for the gov to take advantage. Thats not true, go find me ten links to child pornography sites that are real [not FBI traps for pedaphiles]. Some government intervention is good. Trust me, I loathe big government, but even worse than that is none at all. Go move to India, africa, or china where counterfit goods outnumber the real ones, and try to buy an important medication that you need to survive. protecting inventors rights and legitimacy of our products is in part why much of the technology and product safety we enjoy here exists, because we strive to protect those inventors and their products. this bill was a good idea, it just got carried away. hopefuly one follows it that is reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesfer Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I think that the MegaUpload shutdown goes to show that SOPA isn't needed to enforce copyright laws. The current system works well and as it should. The current system requires someone to prove they really are the owner of the copyrighted material and, once proven, the material is taken down. I've gone through this process multiple times as I work in a field where it's necessary. What SOPA would have done is give me the ability to demand items be taken down without having to prove that I actually own the intellectual property, and that is why I do not support the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy2222 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Chad, we aren't talking about india,africa,or china. This is 'Murica and how many products do you buy DAILY that are made here? Other than local produce/fuel it probably isn't much. There's so many knockoff goods in china because our good products go over there for cheap production and inturn get copied, if not flat out "snuck out the back door". On a side note, you wont find those sites anywhere, but i guarantee you there are torrents full of it. Torrents are the black market( but free) of the internet, and you can pretty much get anything. So long as there is internet there will always be torrents. After thinking about it, this has turned into something similar to prohibition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 if we don't have rues, we will be another india, africa or china. I jsut don't want us to be a north Korea either, so balance is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy2222 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 so that's why pizza is a vegetable now huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_StarionTSI Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Speedy.....no hijacking please. I don't wanna become Afghanistan now either. Lol But yeah, there's all points to be made. I Agree, our system is working fine. Go past that, you'll be controlling too much. They can take out sites that are pirating like mega upload and child pornography sites as well without the bill. Like I said, it's an excuse to put their foot in their door. Let the Internet roll as it is. It's been working and the sites that are doing illegal activity are shut down when found guilty as it has been all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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