Star_V8_Quest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmwii Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 there is no way to extract more energy from water than it takes to crack it - it's just simple physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbrad511 Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Seems that people all over the world are experimenting with this idea. People build their own portable hydrogen generators and plumb them into their cars. Not sure what it'd do long term to their engines, but it does seem to wrok. Search youtube a bit. Quite a bit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomguy Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 http://www.water4gas.com/images/vacuum.jpg http://www.water4gas.com/images/electrical.jpg looks like water injection all i see is it raising the compression ratio slightly... slightly improving power/economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_V8_Quest Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 http://www.water4gas.com/images/vacuum.jpg http://www.water4gas.com/images/electrical.jpg looks like water injection all i see is it raising the compression ratio slightly... slightly improving power/economy i think that one is for small gains only.seems like you will have to buy the online books to have the one for the most gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmwii Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 they are electrolyzing tiny amounts of hydrogen and plumbing it into the intake. no problems there, except you use more energy to crack the water than you get back out. when you burn hydrogen and oxygen, the product is water. to convert that water back into hydrogen and oxygen requires MORE ENERGY than the burning can produce. it is a net loss. this CANNOT produce a net return based on its generation of hydrogen. perhaps something else he is doing - leaning the engine out maybe - is helping mileage, but any benefits are not because of the hydrogen produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig87 Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I wonder if any increase is because your are taking advantage of the parasitic loss from the alternator, and negating it to a point. SO tomarrow i will charge up my battery real good and then drive without my belts. wp too thats just more parasitic draw. really there is no FREE energy stuff like this is bs there is a guy on craigslist that sells these for 120bux already made and guarantess better milage. I will just stick to running lean off boost. with my safc I should be able to get the quest into the 30's on the highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxzillian Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 The only way it could really work and has been postulated is that it improves or aids the combustion process. It's energy is not so much the big picture but what it does for how the gas burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplee Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 so are the videos fake that are floating around the web. I got an email forward with a video that looked like a legit news story from a local station in PA. They were covering a guy who was doing cancer research because his wife was sick. They said he accidentally stumbled on a method by which radiated water burned like acetylene and oxygen. They had his water fueled torch working and stuff. If it was a scam to reinforce this "run your car on water" hoax/con then it was a good one because they had a very professional sounding anchor and on scene journalist. Hard to tell. Definitely seems too good to be true. I downloaded a whole set of the instructions via utorrent if someone smart on chemistry and physics wants to take a look at it. It's a small .pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_insanity Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 ive got a friend who is retired from the cdc. (center for disease control). hes a pretty smart guy and he recently came to see me about this and broght me all the info on it to get my opinion. i didnt have time to read it all in detail but he says hes going to be putting it toghether in the next few weeks. i should be getting an update as soon as he makes any progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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