New sub-section...

[Komeuppance]

How about a sub-section for "other 2.6 powered beasts" (Montero, D-50... etc.) ??  I've noticed many of us SQ owners have another ride with the G54B in it.

 

Yes, no??

 

-Robert

[Distorted.Clarity]

that would be cool.. i would like to see the others that run these motors..mods..ect..

[Meursault]

I would definately like to see an outlet for owners and enthusiests alike to share information on these undersupported vehicles. If this happens I would be down for donations.

[Komeuppance]

Yes, how much donation would be needed??

 

-Robert

[89onaquest]

this person came over to DJ's site asking us to come over here lending a word on the 4G63 swap....

 

Who here does not know of DJ's site and what it is about?

 

I will say the same thing I said there, DJ's is about the '63 swap period, not just in the quest, just the swap into other vehicles too.

It is a specialist site, point blank. It deals with one issue.

 

Now to this thread... yes everyone knows the 54B is undersupported, and ignored.

Hense why some go for the engine swap, or other meathods.

 

Though I will say that there are probly very few ideas that have not been discussed at one point or another.

 

The search button on any forum is a handy thing. Though some of the onsite search engines are junk.

 

Thoug yes it would be nice to have a site that deals with nothing but building the 54B, but I coulda swore that was already done here... on these forums. Hell a 54B is a 54B right?

[Komeuppance]

The search button on any forum is a handy thing. Though some of the onsite search engines are junk.

 

Thoug yes it would be nice to have a site that deals with nothing but building the 54B, but I coulda swore that was already done here... on these forums. Hell a 54B is a 54B right?

 

That's cool. I know about search functions. However, I wasn't referring to G54B building only... I was referring to OTHER VEHICHLES powered by the G54B.

 

Right now, we're using the BS forum to talk about them. Thought it would be nice if we could get all our info gathered and organized into a sub section of our own.

 

-Robert

[89onaquest]

That's cool. I know about search functions. However, I wasn't referring to G54B building only... I was referring to OTHER VEHICHLES powered by the G54B.

 

Right now, we're using the BS forum to talk about them. Thought it would be nice if we could get all our info gathered and organized into a sub section of our own.

 

-Robert

You can talk about OTHER VEHICLES powered by the 54B all you want. The 54B is the 54B. N/A, turbo it's STILL A 54B SO what works on one will work on others.

SO what do people do, they put on bigger turbo's, the TR intake, homemade manifolds, exhaust's, cam's and what the hell ever else there is out there.

 

The wanting to put otgeather a forum discussing the 54B is all over this site. However moving from a Conquest/Starion site to a What-the-hell-ever has a G54B on THIS site will be shut down, never allowed to live.

It would move from a Starquest origin to anything powered by mitsubishi board... because well, just about anything before 92 that mitsu made had a good chance of having the 54B.

[Meursault]

You can talk about OTHER VEHICLES powered by the 54B all you want. The 54B is the 54B. N/A, turbo it's STILL A 54B SO what works on one will work on others.

SO what do people do, they put on bigger turbo's, the TR intake, homemade manifolds, exhaust's, cam's and what the hell ever else there is out there.

 

The wanting to put otgeather a forum discussing the 54B is all over this site. However moving from a Conquest/Starion site to a What-the-hell-ever has a G54B on THIS site will be shut down, never allowed to live.

It would move from a Starquest origin to anything powered by mitsubishi board... because well, just about anything before 92 that mitsu made had a good chance of having the 54B.

 

You don't get it. This isn't just about the G54B as much as you think it is. Many Starion owneres also own other G54B vehicles, but most of the simularities stop there with the engine.

 

There isn't a large forum for these owners to congregate, but since many of these owners do congregate here to discuss the Starion, it is natural to create a seperate section for them discuss their other G54B vehicles. The search function is great provided the question has already been answered. However, without a specific section, the people with the answer to the question will likely never see that question, and the question goes unanswered.

[Komeuppance]

Ummmmm... alright man.  If you don't want to participate in this idea, that's cool.  This wasn't a post about NOT making a new sub-section.  It was a post FOR making one.

 

I am not sure how to make it more clear that I'm not talking about building a G54B and that what I am talking about is building D50/Montero/Firearrow and those kinda cars.

 

I don't know why you seem so intent on not letting this go through.  Did I get on your bad side??  Because I've never even talked to you (online/otherwise) before.

 

-Robert

[89onaquest]

This has little to do with the G54B.

 

I am telling you from experience from other boards that "expanded" to include other cars. The went to hell. Instead of staying focused on what the site was about, they went openwide, and it became nothing.

 

I am all for having forums to talk about cars, but some applied rules are needed. You talk about a VERY SMALL group of vehicles. Usually a "generation" that is composed of a vehicle (IE Third gen F Bodies-82-92 camaro's and firechickens) that have nearly everything in common. It covers all variants of that vehicle, but that vehicle ONLY. Another example the DSM forums, they talk about a "Generation" of vehicles that are very similar. The Galant, talon, eclipse, laser, and others. They are all SIMILAR.

 

A Quest, and a D50 have little in common. A Quest and a Montero have little in common. A Quest and anything else really, have little in common.

 

That is the standpoint I look at it from.

If questions are asked by the other people, fine, I am not saying ban them. But they should not become equall shares in a rare forum about a vehicle that shares nothing in common with them.

 

I also see it as this, people say the D50 has a devoute following. Well why are they only on the Yahoo boards? Why do they not have a board like SQC?

 

That opinion goes for any vehicle you may want to "add" to SQC.

 

If I ruffled feathers, well too bad. I am tring to be the voice of reason. When you add too many things to the recipe, it tastes like crap. The same thing goes for vehicle forums, you try to discuss too many cars, nothing is done effectively anymore.

 

DO I actually care if it is done? No. I could care less. I am just tring to warn others what they are tring to do. I have seen it done, and it has ruined EVERY SINGLE BOARD I SAW THAT DID IT.

 

Hell it's not likle I even frequent this board anymore.

[Meursault]

I believe you do care, otherwise you wouldn't be here trying to warn people. That is fine if you want to make a warning, but state it and be done. I think you are confusing a devout following with a large following, and they aren't the same. The fact is, due to the age and unfamiliarity of the vehicles, there is little chance they could ruin such a forum as this.

[89onaquest]

I believe you do care, otherwise you wouldn't be here trying to warn people. That is fine if you want to make a warning, but state it and be done. I think you are confusing a devout following with a large following, and they aren't the same. The fact is, due to the age and unfamiliarity of the vehicles, there is little chance they could ruin such a forum as this.

 

I remember a very long time ago a third gen board decided to include the GNX and Monte Carlo... the board was well.... nearly decimated. All the old hands (including myself) warned the owners/mods and they did it anyway. The result, nearly 70% (about 104 people that were long in years of membership) of the "old hands" left, never to return. And they changed it back less then 3 months later. But the damage by that point had already been done.

Hell the owner was a freind of mine, and he was really wanting to sell the URL and be done with it at one point. Actually he did sell it about 4 months later. I do not know what became of the site after that.

 

I simply cannot stress this enough. If they decide to do it, it is out of my hands, but they need to think long and hard about it. As I said before, I have seen numberous GOOD forums go to hell that decided to expand.

It sounds really good in theory, but so do alot of other things...

[89onaquest]

Kome, this has nothing to do with you as a person.

This is about a person that has watched this forum for quite some time, and been members of other forums that decided to do EXACTLY what you are proposing.

 

I am attempting to be a stern voice of warning.

I am not saying it is not a good idea, it is. Truely it is. But once you open that door it is very hard to close, and once opened it wreaks havoc.

 

I have heard ALOT of good ideas, but once put into practice, it had the oppisite effect and did far more harm then intended.

 

IF this is done, it needs to be HIGHLY moderated and VERY STRICT rules. I would even go as far to suggest the 2 strike rule. 1st time goof up, understood forgiven, 2nd, your out. I... well hell I have said what I needed to say. Listen, don't, do whatever.

If it happens, I will surmise I will no longer frequent these boards.

[Komeuppance]

I believe you do care, otherwise you wouldn't be here trying to warn people. That is fine if you want to make a warning, but state it and be done. I think you are confusing a devout following with a large following, and they aren't the same. The fact is, due to the age and unfamiliarity of the vehicles, there is little chance they could ruin such a forum as this.

 

Yeah, what he said.

 

89onaquest:  Ok, we got your opinion, thanks.  If you keep wanting to speak out against this, make a different post instead of using this one.  We've heard what you have to say and I will take that into consideration.  This post is not about arguing/debating about how expanding ruined other forums you've been to.  One post stating that was enough.

 

-Robert

[89onaquest]

Yeah, what he said.

 

89onaquest:  Ok, we got your opinion, thanks.  If you keep wanting to speak out against this, make a different post instead of using this one.  We've heard what you have to say and I will take that into consideration.  This post is not about arguing/debating about how expanding ruined other forums you've been to.  One post stating that was enough.

 

-Robert

Actually I do not think that one post was enough.

By your wording, you are not considering what I said at all.

 

Forget it... I said what I had to say... do whatever, then I can tell you "I told you so"...

[Komeuppance]

Actually I do not think that one post was enough.

By your wording, you are not considering what I said at all.

 

Forget it... I said what I had to say... do whatever, then I can tell you "I told you so"...

 

Alright, thanks.

 

I see you've been "debating" this on another forum as well:

http://beatingyou.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=89

 

But, anyway... back to the original idea.  Who is for this??

 

-Robert

[Technology]

quit hating, dudes.

 

i think it's ok to have a "G54B tech forum" for all 54 powered cars. here. but it would have to be in it's own section.

 

if i had a car with a g54b in it, i'd swap in the turbo motor, and hit the ground running

[artinist]

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