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i couldnt turn up the boost last year on the starion due to my Walbro 255 not being able to keep up after i made the switch to E-85 so im revamping the entire fuel system

 

Started out with a new Aeromotive A-1000 fuel pump and a new spin on napa fuel filter

then i was thinking whats the point in adding a massive fuel pump and filter and then trying to suck the fuel to it through a 3/8" line in the tank

 

so a little fabrication was in order

 

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00592.jpg

 

then i removed the stock pickup in the tank and welded the new one in its place

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00593.jpg

 

and here is a compairison of the stuck vs new

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00594.jpg

 

i know i need to trim it more but this is just a start and there is alot more work to be done on it ill try to keep it updated

btw i have alot to do under the hood too

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00595.jpg

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well i didnt get as much time to work on it as i had hoped to this weekend but i made 1 more step

 

had to fab up a mount for my spin on fuel filter housing and ran the line to that

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00596.jpg

i was planning on using 3/4" fuel line for it but the largest napa had was 5/8 so i gonna call around Wed and see if i can find some locally

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00597.jpg

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well ive been a little busy the last 2 day since i was off work and i really need to tanks Bryen (quikconq) for most of it today

i ask about every part im buying about compatibility with ethanol and everything is sposta work

im planning on a FIC rail -8 in -6 out and FIC 1600's and my goal is to lay down 600 ponies to the tires

 

 

mounted the fuel pump

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00600.jpg

 

got the tank and the filter were i wanted it (had to trim 1" off my bracket)

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00603.jpg

then ran the -8 from the fuel pump up to the front of the car

(no pic just pretend you see a braided line under a oily undercarriage)

 

then we worked on cleaning up the plumbing under the hood

here is a before

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00595.jpg

 

we decided on killing the DSM waterpump setup that was on the car and going with a mighty max pump but i will have to run v-belts instead of a multi-rib

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00601.jpg

and this is why went went with this we got to go from a large diameter dsm pipe on the side of the block

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00605.jpg

to this and the small nipple that needs to be brazed on pipe yet will be the return for the water to turbo

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00606.jpg

 

then i pulled the tranny out so i can put the alumnium flywheel in

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00602.jpg

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ok i havent been sluffung off on my progect just been too busy to post updates

 

i decided to go with a mighty max water pump as stated earlier but that took some modification to clear the duel cam tentioner braket

i had to counter sink the bolt hole here and grind it down a little (dont worrie i allready cleaned it up before i put the belt on)

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00607-1.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00609-1.jpg

 

then i put the belt on and degreeed the cams and that took just about all day yesterday

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00614.jpg

and a good use for you old steel flywheels (it worked)

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00613.jpg

 

here is the final resaults for were they ended up can hardly tell but you see

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00616.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00617.jpg

 

i also decided another thing that bothered me was the way they ran the power steering line so might as well since im down to that

its the blue hose in this picture

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00618.jpg

here is the after and you can also see the black cloth braided line that is running from the prethermostat side of the wateroutlet and the nipple on that steel pipe there will be the turbo return. when they did the build they didnt run any water to the turbo

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00619.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00620.jpg

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i decided to go with a mighty max water pump as stated earlier but that took some modification to clear the duel cam tentioner braket

i had to counter sink the bolt hole here and grind it down a little (dont worrie i allready cleaned it up before i put the belt on)

 

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00609-1.jpg

 

then i put the belt on and degreeed the cams and that took just about all day yesterday

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00614.jpg

 

 

I don't remember having any trouble with clearance on that bolt on mine. I used new mitsu bolts on the waterpump instead of allen heads, but I can't see that being much of a difference. I did have to grind down that rib and actually some of the "turbine" of the pump for clearance on the tensioner pulley.

 

And if you don't mind my asking, what did you degree the cams to? If I remember correctly, you have the 292's right?

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if you use a eclipse water pump you dont need to clearance it but with the MM pump i had to

 

the cams are HKS 272's

i set the cams to this but i do plan to do some testing on the dyno to see what gives me the best power

272 Intake

Max Valve Lift - 10.3mm (0.4055")

Centerline at 0mm vavle lift 105 deg

Intake Valve timing at 1mm (0.0394")

Valve opens at 4 deg BTDC

Valve closes at 30 deg ABDC

Valve Centerline 105 deg (WRONG - 103 deg)

272 Exhaust

Max Valve Lift - 9.8mm (0.3858")

Centerline at 0mm vavle lift 111 deg

Exhaust Valve timing at 1mm (0.0394")

Valve opens at 34 deg BBDC

Vavle closes at 0 deg ATDC

Vavle Centerline 111 deg (WRONG - 107 deg)

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I'm running the MM pump also, hated the idea of running the hose up over the P/S pump and having that huge pipe running back.

 

http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10108/car_pics_004.jpg

 

I don't have a pic of the waterpump installed without the tensioner already on though.

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couple small updates im getting down to the nitty gritty and small tedious things

 

but had a special delivery by the mail man today

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00628.jpg

 

got those put in

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00629.jpg

 

front of the engine is starting to look like a champ

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00631.jpg

 

finished resault of the replumb

front half of motor

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00632.jpg

back half

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00633.jpg

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Its a MM crank waterpump and alt pully on (I'm assuming) a DSM alt with a alt relocation kit and a starion power steering pump. But with the MM dampener you can't use a timing belt cover but I like having mine open
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If it were more than just a weekend warrior car and some blasts down the quarter I would worrie about it but seeing as how its not... thanks I appreciate your sarcasm. Ill be sure to drive down a gravel road peeling out in reverse just to try and get gravel in there
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ok havent been slacking just not posted all i have done here is a quick and dirty update

 

here was the exhaust i had 3" stainless DP coupled to 2.5" crushbent

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00642.jpg

 

bought a 3" turboback but it was stock starquest style and used the back half of that and welded it to the downpipe for the DSM style

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00643.jpg

 

went with a 2 speed radiator fan from a 90-95 taurus it flow 2500 cfm on low speed and 4000 cfm on hi

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00644.jpg

 

ran some relays to activate the fan automaticly from the stock thermosensor low speed comes on at 180 and high at 212

also wired a switch under the hood to activate high speed for like when im on the dyno

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00639.jpg

 

while i was over on that fender i relocated all the stock relays (outa site outa mind)

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00640.jpg

 

then after looking down in the engine bay i decided i didnt like the stock oil cooler, so...

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00636.jpg

and -6 lines from the filter housing to the cooler

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00641.jpg

 

and my fitting finally came for the -8 to the fuel rail

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00645.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/fomes9282/DSC00646.jpg

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I think its time for me to take a little time off from this car. I'm getting down to the nifty gritty and its fighting me the entire way. The worried g on this car is a complete nightmare I tried wiring the wideband to my dsm link and I want to wire the clutch up as well so I can no lift to shift but once again the wireing is a nightmare. I hooked up the battery and turned the key on and am having some other problems elsewere.

But anyway I work Mon and Tue and Wed I'm going to Three Rivers Mi to get a new motor for the 86 and I work all weekend this coming weekend so a week off ought to do me good

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