BOOSTED88tsi Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 he's in the east bay, my friend pranay gave me a call telling me that you got a starion haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 he's in the east bay, my friend pranay gave me a call telling me that you got a starion haha. haha word travels fast. yeah east bay. so the car is still up on jacks, the new trans is in, but the prop shaft needed new u joints, and of course we discovered that the water pump is leaky. this is what you get for $850 haha. all that aside though, i still want to replace the fan switches and the thermostat. i know theres two switches on the bottom left/right of the radiator, but which one turns one fan on and which turns both on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Dont Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 The passenger side one turns on the primary/passenger side fan and the drivers side turns on the secondary and oil cooler fan. Most of us simply add a jumper from the two thermoswitches. Like I mentioned to you when you were over check out starquestgarage.com it will have almost everything you will need concerning these cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Oil cooler fan? The front pusher fan is purely there, for the A/C Condensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Dont Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Oil cooler fan? The front pusher fan is purely there, for the A/C Condensor. I have no ac so oil cooler it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcyone Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 wow both your cars are hot! I have a Starquest and a Subaru as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have no ac so oil cooler it is. haha seems to be a common sq thing. "sweet! automatic climate control in a 1987 car?" "yeah but the ac doesn't work" wow both your cars are hot! I have a Starquest and a Subaru as well. thanks i noticed your sig in another thread. very nice overdue progress update. Transmission/cooling system overhaul/bodywork frenzy are not yet over, the car is still on jacks in the garage haha. here's whats happened since my last post. C/P'd from another forum. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0194.jpg This whole operation has taken a lot longer than i would've liked. So the new transmission is now in, but the prop shaft is not, as the u joints are fookt, but refuse to come out of the yolks. We had to use an acetylene torch, sawzall and rotary tool to get the first one off. Here is our family friend Cy, who is quite handy with torch and most power tools, going to town on it: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0191.jpg Now I know U joints don't usually work like this. When we did the Triumph's, all we had to do was hit the shoulder of the yolk with a hammer and the cap of the u-joint starts to pop up. Not so with Mitsubishi :/ Next we had to extract the old transmission, but the bolts had been tightened by farging lou ferrigno. So Cy brought his torque wrench and some hardcore box-end extensions... POWAR! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0196.jpg Success. Guess which one came out of my car. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0198.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0199.jpg Now imagine this, but all over the bottom of my car. It's like Kuwait. Hot and covered in oil. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0200.jpg Inside the new trans, not much to see http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0201.jpg New release bearing F YEAH! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0207.jpg Whilst Cy and my dad put the new trans in the car, I busied myself with beautification. New foglight out of my free bumper (temporary) http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0209.jpg And I decided my car was a perfect candidate for being MAD JDM TYTE YO! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0210.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0211.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0212.jpg After that whole adventure, I shampooed my new seats and shampooed the rugs in the car, and now it smells a s*** ton better. Threw the new seats in yesterday, my car is now ron burgundy-er than ever http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0215.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0216.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0217.jpg I'm going to prep the new bumper, mount, and headlight housings for paint today. Oh, ps, I went to the DMV the other day to attempt to register it, and received some interesting information. Turns out this car hasn't been registered since 2003. The 2010 tag that's on it is fake or stolen. It's not even supposed to have plates, the tow company was supposed to keep them. So, I ended up paying $500 for a fooking temp registration card, I get a real one when I get a bill of sale thing filled out by the previous owner (not difficult) and get it smogged (very difficult). Smog will be an adventure because I discovered that the muffler is not connected to the cat because the pipe has been hacked apart. muffler shop here i come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Things are moving along. Got all my water pump/cooling system parts except one, which should hopefully be here shortly. In the meantime, I set about ripping the Starion's face off... for bodywork purposes. This made my car very happy. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0226.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/Awesome.png So then I removed the driver's side headlight, the one with the the broken motor, and set about transfering the headlight, housing, trim and cover to one of the new ones I got from conquest707 (thanks again!). http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04673.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04676.jpg It worked like a charm and I now have two operational headlights. Pics of that later. Next I test fitted the new bumper beam I acquired and painted. It fit well, and I've found the spot in the old beam where the car was hit and the mounting points were fookt. here's what the mounting point is supposed to look like: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04687.jpg here's what the driver's side point looked like: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04689.jpg as you can see, that one mount took the majority of the hit. thankfully. and also, thankfully i have another one. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0222.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0223.jpg I put my new spark plugs in too. Kind of a pain to get at them but whatevs. Sanding/priming body panels next, then valve cover gasket, then thermostat, fan switches and water pump. Edited September 8, 2009 by wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) old bumper face, with remnants of a license plate bracket that was a little too tight. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04695.jpg old bumper beam, foam core from new bumper, and foam core from old bumper that I will be using http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04697.jpg Before I got to sanding the new bumper, I decided to remove the air dam from the old one, which turned out to be a massive pain. Had to get out the corded dremel tool to get some rusted nuts off. It's a 3-piece air dam, and one of the side pieces was split completely in two from the accident so I sewed it back together. I'll tighten it up when it's mounted on the car http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04700.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04702.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04698.jpg The jigsaw puzzle that is my air dam http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04703.jpg Edited September 8, 2009 by wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 PS...I do like how you stitched your airdam together. What did you use? That gave me ideas, for my airdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 blue zip ties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 some one needs to tell your friend a tourqe wrench should NEVER be use'd as a breaker bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Oh he brought breaker bars, i just took a pic of the torque wrench because it was biggest ha. Anyways, sorry for the lack of updates. I'll borrow update posts from other forums (so they may have explanations of things you already know), but feel free to skip to the end of the post if you just don't care.-----08 SEPTEMBER, 2009Got everything painted and the new fender mounted. ish. in going to tighten it down tomorrow, then cooling system and drive shaft, as Cy is coming back tomorrow evening to help. Sorry for crappy iPhone pics http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0228.jpg Headlight trim and moustache turned out nicehttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0231.jpg New fender, primedhttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0232.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0233.jpg New bumper, primedhttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0234.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0235.jpg-----18 OCTOBER 2009UPDATE TIME A lot has happened since my last visit to this thread. It's hard to keep up with this informing the interweb thing with college, my apologies for not filling you guys in as it happens. Summarily, after a month on jacks, the Starion is on the road again. Sort of. After sorting out most of the things on the original to-do list, it has a new problem. My dad and a family friend have been working on it in my absence, which is much appreciated. So, I haven't actually driven it yet, but my dad told me this: The car idles just fine and shifts smooth (and apparently no longer has temperature problems, knock on wood), but under acceleration, when the engine hits about 2500 RPM, and the boost needle reaches 0 bar, the revs completely drop to idle and the car stops accelerating. It never stalls, and it idles normaly, but something is wrong with either the turbo plumbing or the ECU. My dad said he checked every turbo-related connection he could find, and we never went near the wastegate, so the next move is to reset the ECU. Resetting the ECU is as simple as disconnecting the negative battery connection. This essentially kills its brain in its sleep. Some say to let it sit unconnected overnight. Then reconnect the battery and start the car. Let it run until it's warm. This allows the ECU to gather airflow data, AFR data and EGR data. Resetting or reflashing is a smart thing to do when you modify your forced induction car, because if you install that mondo air intake or that high flow exhaust, the ECU will just work extra hard to counteract it because it wants to run optimally at the level of performance your car had before you installed the new parts, the stock level. We disconnected the Starion's battery multiple times when working on it on jacks. My dad pulled it out of the garage and presumably parked it at the curb. If he didn't let it warm up or rev up, however, the ECU would gather all its operating data from a cold engine and a much lower rev limit. Then when you try to use the car at a warmed up temperature, the ECU attempts to compensate for what it perceives to be an overheating and redlining by cutting fuel and calming the car down, as it were. That's my theory, at least. SO, hopefully all we have to do is reset the ECU again and let it run till it's warm, maybe put it in neutral and redline it once.-----08 NOVEMBER 2009I went up from san luis to davis this weekend to see my gf and for the big football game. i also bought a sweet bicycle friday haha, pics [at bottom]. So, I only spent like an hour at my house, and my dad had the Starion in the garage and he was replacing a narrow coolant hose that sprung a pinhole leak. I'm not sure exactly what the hose does, but it's turbo and/or temperature related I believe. Anyways, it's been doing its fuel / rev cut thing, and the ECU reset thing didn't work. We were kinda stumped. But then this hose busted a leak. So my dad got a replacement, and when he took the old one off he found that the metal tube it connected to was almost completely clogged with rust, like a rust blood clot. He removed it, and I left my house before he put the new hose on. He called me later and said he drove it with the new hose, and when he pushed the revs to look for the point where it would cut off, it just didn't. He said it drove "like a scalded cat". So, it's our assumption that the rust blockage was caused because the fitment is vertical and when the engine isnt running, moisture sits in the mouth of the metal tube and corrodes. It made a clot over the years, blocked the coolant, and somehow activated a fuel cut or a plumbing gremlin. BUT, bottom line, the Starion lives! And doesn't overheat! And it spools! Next mission is repairing the exhaust center section and smogging it, fingers crossed. After that new tires. Maybe.-----18 NOVEMBER 2009 THE STARION PASSED SMOG TODAY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-----20 NOVEMBER 2009I'm home! I drove the Starion today and it was an absolute champ. Shifted like butter with no slosh when it's in gear, a lot quiter now that it actually has exhaust, good oil pressure and engine temp, lights flipped up nicely, and the new seats were a real step up from the previous seats. I couldn't wind it up too much, it was a rainy here and the tires aren't exactly grip monsters. It started to get loose as i got on the freeway at one point. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0336.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0338.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0340.jpg Fresh plateshttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0341.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0339.jpg my dad just showed me this, the smog slip. im so proud of this car haha. MAX is the maximum passing amount, AVE is the average for a passing car, MEAS is what the Starion put out http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/Smog11-09.jpg PS, this is my other new toy , a vintage Univega Nuovo Sporthttp://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Univega11-09.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coke Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I bet that bicycle is more reliable Should keep that in the back of the car just in case, hahah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 get new inj pig tails and clean the inj terminals,,AND DO A good job,, don't short cut this,, if you do you'l be screwing with it for the next 4 months and in the end you'l replace the inj clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyTSI Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 im sure others have said this already.. If you think parts for your car are hard to find... mulitply that by a factor of 10 and youll get an idea of the quest/starion ownership. These cars are getting to the point of having them for a weekend fun ride and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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