Silver_Bullet Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 All I have to say about my full 3" exhuast is WWWOOOOOOWWW!!!!! Â Thanks, KELLY (just in case your still surfing the site)! Â I had the JC Whitney flex piping installed and my Bosch 3 wire O2 along with my SuperTrapp on it, it is EXTREMELY LOUD!!! Â hee hee. Â My ears were hurting, it is that loud, but then again, I didn't have a hex tool with me so I could install the plates and shield, so it will be a little quieter. Â The guy said he didn't want to try to install my CATCO cat because with the way the exhaust sits on my Starion, he thought it would rub and bang my underbody, so we opted not to install, yet (no doubt it would make it quieter). Â But man, at 16-18 psi, my 14g spools up instantly at highway speeds and is not as sluggish as it was with the crush bent 2.5" that was on the car originally at lower speeds and rpm's. Â I am excited to find out what it performs like with a 20g! Â We're having fun now! Â Oh, I also had a Ravine muffler (Midas version) installed on my 99 FSC GMC Z-71, 5.3L V-8 and I am on my way to pick it up. Â The guy who replaced my Gibson muffler with the Ravine says it is LOUD. Â I got a real truck now. Â I'll edit later about the sound and performance, but he said it is DEEP. Â Gotta love V-8's! D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Bullet Posted November 9, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Update #1: Well, I will be the first to say DON'T buy a SuperTrapp and run it with the diffuser plates. I am SO disappointed with the diffuser plates installed, the car was so quiet and had no power compared to running it wide open. I honestly believe I would have to run over 30 of those plates to get any sound out it and still not get the power I had with it uncorked. I had trouble pulling away from a Ford Focus with an exhaust mod (maybe intake). My plan is to replace it with a Ravine muffler similar to what I had put on my Z-71. NOW that is a SWEET muffler, oh, the sound is so cool and ya know, there is nothing quite like a V-8 at full song, eh? And can I say that my Z-71 is running faster now? Oh, yeah, it smoked the right rear tire for about 25 feet and I am running 305's on it!!! D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 do a favor and look in to the summitracing muffler WLK-17223 it is the best flowing muffler out there and not too loud but very deep, and 40 dollars after a 20 dollar mail in rebate! 50 state legal just check it out! 1 awsome free flowing muffler also i have the catco cat and it never rubs, works great cto-6007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmendeol Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 I second the WLK-17223, great piece! Absolutely best muffler money can buy IMHO. Sounds awesome!!! Very deep. -Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Bullet Posted November 13, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 I some how doubt the Summit can outflow a SuperTrapp uncapped. There is absolutely nothing restricting it except for the 3" core. I admit it's a bit loud, but it is very deep and considering I paid $180 for it shipped from Summit, I am going to get my money's worth out of before I go with something different which may or may not outflow my current setup. I would hate to lose the power and responsiveness I am getting from the SuperTrapp (boost on demand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmendeol Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Well, supposedly the Ultraflow flows better than straight pipe. Â That's hard to beat. Â I figure if it flows even close to as good as straight pipe then it's definitely good enough for me. Plus the WLK-17223 and WLK-24222 are available for $60 and $35 respectively. I like that ;D http://home.earthlink.net/~tmahon281/image.html -Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Bullet Posted November 13, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Interesting test. The guy ended up going with the Warlock. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Go figure. " I figured out which one is the best and then decided to use something else" :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 when looking through the wlk-17223 it is 3 inch dia in and out BUT in side where it is in the 6 inch round part of the muffler, the middle between the in and out where it goes to 6 inch outer dia it is actually 3.5 to 4 inch inside dia perferated pipe, smooth with many holes, that is where it gets its flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Bullet Posted November 13, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 You're starting to convince me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Heck if you realy did need a new muffler that imo the best way to go! for 40 dollars after the mail in rebate, kind of sounds like a commercial ????? but if you allready have a supertrap, i hear they are awsome as well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importwarrior Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 it is so deep of a tone i chirp alarms all over the parking lots and in parking garages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87hondakiller Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 i have a hks 2.5 inch with 3 inch muffler great sound good turbo spool and power i have no complaints with 2.5 exhuast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Bullet Posted November 14, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 i have a hks 2.5 inch with 3 inch muffler great sound good turbo spool and power i have no complaints with 2.5 exhuast. I replaced a full 2.5" crush bent on my 87 Starion with Kelly's 3". The 3" is far better than any 2.5" you can put on one of our cars; it simply flows so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbotsi Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 I put on a apex-i turbo muffler 3 inch in 4.5 out, looks mean growls nice, can hear the turbo at idle ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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