starion0352 Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 help me out here is the tokico illumina shock insert available for the toyota mr2 the same as the kyb agx? looking on the nopionline store it seems so,93 toyota mr2 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozaq Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Yeah, they had Illuminas for all the 2nd gen MR2's (91-95). Although the MR2 was dropped a tad in 93, I don't recall there being a difference between years in aftermarket shock part numbers. They're really great shocks; you may want to call them up and see if they have something that will fit the rear housing better, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Yeah, they had Illuminas for all the 2nd gen MR2's (91-95). Although the MR2 was dropped a tad in 93, I don't recall there being a difference between years in aftermarket shock part numbers. They're really great shocks; you may want to call them up and see if they have something that will fit the rear housing better, though. you mean the rear starion housing or the rear mr2 housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 There is no rear "housing", as it's a sealed unit. :wink: Adding spacers for the MR2 designed strut inserts should be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozaq Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Sorry, lol...I meant once you gut the stock sealed unit. I'm curious how well of a fit these shocks really are for the Starquests though. If anything, the MR2 rears should be used as the SQ fronts...I haven't seen anyone switching them around though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 There is no rear "housing", as it's a sealed unit. :wink: Adding spacers for the MR2 designed strut inserts should be sufficient. not complety right. the rear SHP 8 way shocks are "housings" they unscew at the top and the unit comes out. leaving the 8 way knob and aperture remaining in the housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Sorry, lol...I meant once you gut the stock sealed unit. I'm curious how well of a fit these shocks really are for the Starquests though. If anything, the MR2 rears should be used as the SQ fronts...I haven't seen anyone switching them around though. that said the mr2 rears should fit the S/Q rear. i did test fit a KYB GR2(front S/Q one) in my rear housing and it fits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozaq Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 that said the mr2 rears should fit the S/Q rear. i did test fit a KYB GR2(front S/Q one) in my rear housing and it fits! Seems like the way to go to me. I mean, figuring the weight dist. in the mk2 MR2 is something like 43/57, it seems like placing the shocks designed to take more weight in the front of the SQ's would be better for handling. I guess giving Tokico a call and having them start making a kit would be ideal, but yeah. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I wasn't aware of the SHP struts, never had any. :wink: The non-shp ones look like they can be taken apart, but I didn't have any luck. I think they'd have to be cut. The rear MR2 struts have been used in the front SQ housings, and the rear housings that artinist had made. I'll be using a set in the front, without the normally needed 1.85" or so spacer. The front housing will be cut down the exact amount that makes up the difference between the MR2 rear cartridge and the stock SQ front cartridge. That way i'll be able to go just under 2" lower, and have the correct dampening that the MR2 strut can provide. Of course being that low though, i'll have to get my 3" exhaust remade using oval tubing and have it ran as close to the body as possible.. I already have to drive up on sheets of 3/4" MDF just to get a jack under my car.. 88Tsi_Rob said the MR2 AGX's are 14.125" and the stock front inserts are 16". I guess the difference is 1.875".. Once I get my upper strut nut on the Cusco camber plates drilled and retapped to 14x1.5mm, I should be set. Well, that and get the lower control arms from a flatbody to bring in the camber a bit, as my cusco's are maxed out right now and dropping nearly 2" further will give me crazy camber.. Stupid never-ending project cars.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyTSI Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 the 85.5 street/track car that scotty bought has them on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I wasn't aware of the SHP struts, never had any. :wink: The non-shp ones look like they can be taken apart, but I didn't have any luck. I think they'd have to be cut. The rear MR2 struts have been used in the front SQ housings, and the rear housings that artinist had made. I'll be using a set in the front, without the normally needed 1.85" or so spacer. The front housing will be cut down the exact amount that makes up the difference between the MR2 rear cartridge and the stock SQ front cartridge. That way i'll be able to go just under 2" lower, and have the correct dampening that the MR2 strut can provide. Of course being that low though, i'll have to get my 3" exhaust remade using oval tubing and have it ran as close to the body as possible.. I already have to drive up on sheets of 3/4" MDF just to get a jack under my car.. 88Tsi_Rob said the MR2 AGX's are 14.125" and the stock front inserts are 16". I guess the difference is 1.875".. Once I get my upper strut nut on the Cusco camber plates drilled and retapped to 14x1.5mm, I should be set. Well, that and get the lower control arms from a flatbody to bring in the camber a bit, as my cusco's are maxed out right now and dropping nearly 2" further will give me crazy camber.. Stupid never-ending project cars.. thats a a crazy idea about cutting em down wouyld make your car automatically lowered. i guess you still have all your "up travel" justy no "down travel" do your lower arms sit horizontal i wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyTSI Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 i did a simple drawing to get a point across the other day, it is relevent here http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10123/strut%20mod.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 thats a a crazy idea about cutting em down wouyld make your car automatically lowered. i guess you still have all your "up travel" justy no "down travel" do your lower arms sit horizontal i wonder? Yes, the lower control arms are nearly horizontal, maybe a couple degrees away.. I just eyeballed it. With 450lb/in front springs, there's not much down travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyTSI Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 jaus paus you may want to mount your exhaust like i did... have all the hangers remade using modern style that weld to the pipe and the hanger is square and very firm. My exhaust hugs the bottom of my car and doesnt move at all (a good quality flew is mandatory , the cheap stuff wont last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 i did a simple drawing to get a point across the other day, it is relevent here http://www.26liter.us/gallery/albums/userpics/10123/strut%20mod.jpg ya i saw that in another thread. good idea. i want to see if the machine shop can just thread a cut open housing to accapt the top nut. you loose about a inch but that okay for mr2 inserts thoughhttp://www.tristarion.com/cms/component/op...0/topic,18596.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heefner Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 if you are running coil overs, they will not slide over the newly adde DOM sleve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 if you are running coil overs, they will not slide over the newly adde DOM sleve. hmmm dont we have to use a pacer/or wrap with tape anyway?i wonder if the welded over dom tube might just serve as the spacer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 found tokico's for $107.00 each rears. $20.00 less than elsewhere i foundhttp://www.prostreetonline.com/buy/tokico_...cks/tok-bz3126/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 got my tokicos!! $219.00 shipped for the pair that includes a $8.50 c.o.d. fee.these are just like the KYB AGX toyota mr2 rears. check out my pics and link herehttp://www.tristarion.com/cms/index.php?op...topic=18596.new i just need one more shp rear housing to have rear 5 ways readt to install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 LOL.. I didn't know you were Jeff. Is there any reason why I would go with the Tokico illuminas over the AGX's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 LOL.. I didn't know you were Jeff. Is there any reason why I would go with the Tokico illuminas over the AGX's? i have read the illumina are a liuttle stiffer on the high setting so maybe better for drag racing launchs? and they have 5 levels of adjustment where the AGX have 4. i like the white paint on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPaus_88TSi Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 they have 5 levels of adjustment where the AGX have 4. Good enough for me.. I'm sure the price difference isn't much either. Hmmn, I need some rear SHP housings then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozaq Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 On the MR2s, the lowest setting of the Illuminas was just a bit softer than stock [93] settings, giving a pretty comfortable ride. The second setting was just a bit stiffer than stock, and the settings continued from there. The 5th setting is definitely a track only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starion0352 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hmmn, I need some rear SHP housings then.. Instigator 88TSI had a set for sale for $60.00 i flaked out on buying them from him.(spent too much on other car s***) you could p.m. him and try to get them. easy to cut the 8 way knob out of them and use the tokicos. or if you wanna pay return shipping i could prep em for ya! the tokico's are about 20 to 30 bucks more on the internet. i can get them from Competition Specialties for $108.00. they are as cheap as 107.00 plus shiiping on the net i have the link somewhere..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyTSI Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 if you are running coil overs, they will not slide over the newly adde DOM sleve. cant you slide the sleeve over the strut then add the DOm reinforcment (thats all it is and may not even be needed if the weld is doen professionally).. the sleeve just distributes the potential weak spot of the spliced area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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