ronaldseibert Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I have a 1988 TSI and my stock adjustable shocks are in need of replacement. Can I get the originals or do I have to use some custom set up? It's a daily driver except in the winter so I would like as economical a solution as possible. Not racing, but want it right. Thanks. I am sure you have been asked this a million times before. Regards, ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWadd Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 You can put oil back in them. The tops come off and likely they have no oil left in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 You're gonna have to go with stock non adjustable suspension, complete with springs and all. There is no cheap solution to the adjustable struts as only the dealer has or had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldseibert Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Is it an easy swap? The spindles are connected to the assembly and the nitrogen struts can't be filled correct? So who sells the whole set up (the non adj version) at as reasonable price as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Dont Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 You're gonna have to go with stock non adjustable suspension, complete with springs and all. There is no cheap solution to the adjustable struts as only the dealer has or had them. The SHP (adjustable) struts can be rebuilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldseibert Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 You can put oil back in them. The tops come off and likely they have no oil left in them They are the nitrogen kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldseibert Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I think I would prefer to switch over to the non-adjustables if possible as they would likely be easier to maintain in the long run. Does anyone know a parts outlet that I can call and just say I need everything to replace the front and rear suspension? I am not a mechanic myself (so tech info won't be too much help to me personally), but I have a guy who is excellent and knows my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Dont Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I think I would prefer to switch over to the non-adjustables if possible as they would likely be easier to maintain in the long run. Does anyone know a parts outlet that I can call and just say I need everything to replace the front and rear suspension? I am not a mechanic myself (so tech info won't be too much help to me personally), but I have a guy who is excellent and knows my car. Good luck, its all mostly unavailable unless you want so crappy Gabriels or Monroes which are too soft and will blow out in a short time. Your best bet is to find someone else to rebuild them if you are not mechanically inclined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldseibert Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 The SHP (adjustable) struts can be rebuilt Is this rebuild easy or difficult? What does it entail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) Why are you guys complicating things so much? The guy said he wants an inexpensive solution and is not mechanically inclined. Basically, the adjustable springs are not the same as the non adjustable, the adjustable struts when they are blown are basically garbage. That is unless you want to spend the time to remove them, box ship them to the person on here who say's he's rebuilding them, then wait for them to be shipped back. Best solution is just to grab a used set of non adjustable front struts with spring and with spindles, a rear set of struts with springs. You can then buy new front strut shock inserts and buy new rear struts to get it all done. Or simply see if someone on here has some good used front and rear non adjustable struts they want to sell, something that you'll just slap on and off. Take a look at the service manual Front http://www.starquestgarage.com/manuals/service/conquest/1988/88_conquest_service_manual_-_group_02_-_front_suspension.pdf Rear http://www.starquestgarage.com/manuals/service/conquest/1988/88_conquest_service_manual_-_group_17_-_rear_suspension.pdf Edited December 20, 2010 by louswheel01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eirewolf Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 http://starionpartsfactory.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag-O-Chips Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 whoa!~ i've been tooling with these cars and never realized SHP struts can be rebuilt. can someone elaborate on the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag-O-Chips Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 whoa!~ i've been tooling with these cars and never realized SHP struts can be rebuilt. can someone elaborate on the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89PalermoSHP Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 The SHP (adjustable) struts can be rebuilt says who??? lets see one documented case of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWadd Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) its easy to do the shp's. i have only done it once on fronts but it went like this..they where blown and all leaked out so i took em apart by just unsrewing the top and dumping out the old fluid. thare was hardly any in one of them, wich was sorta expected as the right front corner of the car bounced like crazy. anyway i put 5 weight synthetic motorcycle shock oil in the strut and it works great. adjustments work too. supposedly people had used auto trans fluid and brake fluid to. the motor cycle shock oil is high tech and doesnt foam so you dont "need" the nitrogen charge. says who??? lets see one documented case of it... i agree. it was trilogy turbos that did 'em a while back. especially as far as parts and the seals like where to get em. and the internals of the SHP'S have oil flow contril washers at the bottom, so a person could make the shock firmer on compression or rebound. You're gonna have to go with stock non adjustable suspension, complete with springs and all. There is no cheap solution to the adjustable struts as only the dealer has or had them. remember he can also cut off the shp knobs and just drop inserts in the housings. that is a popular way of doing it. the shps have removable gland nuts and threaded housings. Edited December 20, 2010 by JohnnyWadd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picklesgarage Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 so if im reading this right, the general feeling is that the adjustable struts are not worth having? i had been toying with the idea of if i could get the car running and driving and get the money to change over to the adjustable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89PalermoSHP Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 if your saying changing the oil in the shp strut cartridge, i guess its worth a try. otherwise to go adjustable it will require some basic fabrication and a decent amount of $ in parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picklesgarage Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 otherwise to go adjustable it will require some basic fabrication and a decent amount of $ in parts. i get the money end with parts, different housing and inserts, but fab work? its not a swap out type of deal? whats needs to be changed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89PalermoSHP Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 heres a good read http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=99078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picklesgarage Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 heres a good read http://www.starquest...showtopic=99078 so the factory inserts are no longer available i gather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89PalermoSHP Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 front are but they seem to be getting rare as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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