h3r3tic Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I started a 302 swap today. I want to post pictures but its saying I used my quota for pics but I never even posted a picture? Im confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Ok fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 looking good.but thats the easy part now hook everything up.i noticed the brace for the hood latch in the #4 pic.id say youll have to move it for the rad.what i did was cut mine down a bit and welded a bolt to the inside of the bumper.then bolted it up to that.thatll give you plenty of room.i can send you a pic later if youd like to go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 looking good.but thats the easy part now hook everything up.i noticed the brace for the hood latch in the #4 pic.id say youll have to move it for the rad.what i did was cut mine down a bit and welded a bolt to the inside of the bumper.then bolted it up to that.thatll give you plenty of room.i can send you a pic later if youd like to go that way. I found a pretty small radiator to fit in between the frame rails and the rad support in front but it should be efficient enough from what it was saying. I dont think Ill have a problem. At the moment Im on a budget I just gotta do some tattoos and make a bit a loot or sell some of my parts in the for sale section. Today Im gonna fab up the trans member and double check all the fitment possibly get some power steering going. Do you have any good pics of your driver side mount so I can make sure Im in ballpark range. It seems I can shove the motor back much more but it looks like your setup was still about 3/4 an inch back. You have a ton of the passenger side pics but only like 1 driver side pic. What type of fuel pump are you using also. I have a 255 walbro intank. I just got to figure out how Im goin to connect fuel lines to the front. I dont want no lines blowing off. One more thing lol. Do you just make single turbo headers from scratch because you could? or is there any setups out there that could possibly single or twin? I seen those "stainless steel" twin turbo headers people are posting everywhere and theres no name brand on them which usually means there junk like ebay headers. They crack and break off even though they clain their braced and support and so thick. Idk let me know whats up with this and maybe some other odds and ends you ran into. Im deff using that toyota slave cylinder idea and my friend keeps saying go carb'd but I like efi much better. Theres more power plus Im decently good with tuning for when I shoot towards turbo or maybe super charged. Im not sure I do love high end boost lol Im addicted. Thanks for the help btw its highly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) your walbro pump is fine.the stock mustang pump is 190lph.i can get you some pics today since mine is jacked up from replacing the starter but really as long as your shifter is in the right place and you header is clearing you should be fine.if youre looking at my intake for placement''dont''its made completely diff.than the stock intake.do you still have the tube that connects the heads together on the back?thats where you need clearence.if you can get the engine farther back it will help with handling.my first swap i used the mustang fuel lines all the way but it was a pain routing them.and as far as the power steering if youre in a pinch you can cut yourlines and put the mitsu fitting on the mustang line with a compression coupling on the pressure side the other side is return so a hose clamp will do.i had my headers built because im pretty sure the other turbo headers would have to been modded to fit,so we just built from scratch.if i had it to do over id go with a super charger.takes up less room,easier to install,less heat under the hood,and cheaper.performance really doesnt matter because you can split a stock block with either setup.ive got a couple pics of my first swap ill add.http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/P10100212-1.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/P10100322.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/P1010029.jpg Edited September 20, 2009 by tim si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 No pics of the actual driver side mount? above ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) No pics of the actual driver side mount? above ?this is the only one i have from top view on the drivers side.ill get some more later today but they'll mostly be from the bottomhttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/newpics031-2.jpgunfortunately this is the best i can do as far as the drivers side without pulling stuff off.http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/PC220154.jpg Edited September 20, 2009 by tim si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 SOrry to be a pain anyway u can get a pic of the nut underneath on the passenger side? Sorry I setup the motor and everything it was straight and I drill holes and its kinda crooked and Im unhappy with it. so Im like trying take 2 to get it perfect. Sorry Its just so hard Im doin this in a crappy a** driveway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 ill pm you,tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) OK I think the driver side needs to be lower and passenger higher and maybe even more towards the fire wall Edited September 21, 2009 by h3r3tic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Im a retard I put the wrong picture up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) these are all i could find and i couldnt get you any pics underneath because my wastegate pipe runs through there to the down pipe.http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/newpics033-2.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/newpics032-1.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/PC220177.jpg Edited September 21, 2009 by tim si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 wow ur one crazy sob with that crammed setup lol Well if possible I like the idea of you measuring the valve covers wit the a board across fender to fender. If possible measure how far down till the valve cover and how far from each fender to the valve cover. Cuz as u can see in my picture my concrete in my driveway is umm 2 feet wide and the rest is dirt lol so positioning this POS is insane and involves workin wit planks of wood under the hoist wheels and such like an a**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 wow ur one crazy sob with that crammed setup lol Well if possible I like the idea of you measuring the valve covers wit the a board across fender to fender. If possible measure how far down till the valve cover and how far from each fender to the valve cover. Cuz as u can see in my picture my concrete in my driveway is umm 2 feet wide and the rest is dirt lol so positioning this POS is insane and involves workin wit planks of wood under the hoist wheels and such like an a**.measurments wouldnt be the same with my valve covers cause theyre alot taller than stock.that pipe really isnt too bad.its a flexible pipe and actually doesnt rub or anything.i had the wastegate open at first and as soon as the turbo spooled up that wastegate would drouned out everything within 2 miles.i started to route it under the engine cradle but it was too close to the ground.thats the only place to run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 damn alright thats tru. My bad I havent been thinking Im mad tired... Although there has to be something to go by. Idk well tomorro Imma drill new holes maybe slot it where I think they should go based on your pics and mine by comparison. Im not far off just maybe half inch or so by showing pics. When its all said and done Im gonna take a small piece of flat stock wit a hole to weld under like u did with the washer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 a new day usually helps.you might just take a dremil and cut the hole a little bigger.if your sway bar is on you can check clearence there and between the oil pan and engine cradle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 a new day usually helps.you might just take a dremil and cut the hole a little bigger.if your sway bar is on you can check clearence there and between the oil pan and engine cradle. well I kinda need a new sway bar mine is mangled somehow. It was before I got the car. but actually i can still check clearance between it so Idk thanks very much. Ill let u kno how I make out tomorro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) So today I got the motor straight bolted up some mount dented the header and fabbed up a crossmember http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/h3r3tic/0921091845-1.jpg http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt283/h3r3tic/0921091920.jpg Also does the stock gas pedal cable work? Edited September 22, 2009 by h3r3tic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 looks like its sitting in there pretty good.yes you can use your cable.ill snap pics tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) well I go the driver side header dented and fittin the passenger side header the collector hits the side of the engine I guess Im gonna have cut that to fit. umm Is there any longer tube headers that fit ok or any headers for that matter. Is it possible to get rid of that steering box for a smaller one or something simpler. Its driving me insane basically both my headers hit on each side. I dont want my car to be a rattly POS. Plus that heat cant be good for the steering box honestly. and Its driving me insane that Im gonna be limited to these poor flow headers. Edited September 22, 2009 by h3r3tic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 if your pass side header is hitting the engine,somethings wrong with it.that dent you put in the drivers side tube wont hurt a stock motor +several people have run their header that close to the steering box without problems.but you can see why i had headers built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 So motor is in good I welded in washers like you did. Now I took the motor back out gonna clean it up real nice. So I need to know how you connected fuel lines to the fuel rail and that accel cable. Im not sure if there is anything else I need a hand with now but its well appreciated your helpin me with all this some people would tell me to figure it out myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 My bad I meant side of engine bay it only hit by like a 1/4 inch if that I fixed it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim si Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 this is from my first swap and i also used these headers on my black quest before i put the turbo on.it had trick flow heads,alum intake and a cam.no problems and ive never had a problem with the steering box.ill go look at the cable and lines and get back to you.http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/timtsi/DSCF0091-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3r3tic Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Thats all you dented on those headers? I had to dent a decent amount to even even get close. Idk My motor looks like it sits identical to yours. The motor mount bolts look really close and I have just a much room from the master cylinder to intake manifold. Idk its weird I have the same room under the oil pan n stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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