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Settle down now. Sometimes people buy seat frames to reupholster them, and you never know what uses people could have for things. Obviously you have no use for them because you invest considerable effort in making your car clean, so you have no interest in torn seats from a much less fortunate Starion. And since you have no interest I suggest that when you see them on craigslist, you just keep scrolling. Job done. In fact you'll spend less time scrolling past the link for my seats than I will scrolling past your gigantic sig pic that takes up five times as much space as the actual message you intend to send.

bump for getting rid of this stuff.

Some of you may remember me, I had a bought a beat up Starion last summer. Well, I sold it this February. It was fun, I just couldn't keep up with maintaining it. It was in much better shape when I left it though: August 2009 http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04581.jpg February 2010 http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC03945.jpg I have a few parts left though. A pair of seats that will need to be reupholstered, asking $20. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04666.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04667.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04668.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04669.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04671.jpg And a bumper beam/cover/foam, for free. The bumper beam mounting holes on the driver's side are pretty messed up and the front of it has some rust. The cover has been imprinted by a license plate holder gone wrong http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04681.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04690.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04689.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04695.jpg I also have the damaged fender in from the first picture, also free. My dad practiced painting stripes for his Triumph TR250 on it haha.

Oh he brought breaker bars, i just took a pic of the torque wrench because it was biggest ha. Anyways, sorry for the lack of updates. I'll borrow update posts from other forums (so they may have explanations of things you already know), but feel free to skip to the end of the post if you just don't care. ----- 08 SEPTEMBER, 2009 Got everything painted and the new fender mounted. ish. in going to tighten it down tomorrow, then cooling system and drive shaft, as Cy is coming back tomorrow evening to help. Sorry for crappy iPhone pics http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0228.jpg Headlight trim and moustache turned out nice http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0231.jpg New fender, primed http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0232.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0233.jpg New bumper, primed http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0234.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0235.jpg ----- 18 OCTOBER 2009 UPDATE TIME A lot has happened since my last visit to this thread. It's hard to keep up with this informing the interweb thing with college, my apologies for not filling you guys in as it happens. Summarily, after a month on jacks, the Starion is on the road again. Sort of. After sorting out most of the things on the original to-do list, it has a new problem. My dad and a family friend have been working on it in my absence, which is much appreciated. So, I haven't actually driven it yet, but my dad told me this: The car idles just fine and shifts smooth (and apparently no longer has temperature problems, knock on wood), but under acceleration, when the engine hits about 2500 RPM, and the boost needle reaches 0 bar, the revs completely drop to idle and the car stops accelerating. It never stalls, and it idles normaly, but something is wrong with either the turbo plumbing or the ECU. My dad said he checked every turbo-related connection he could find, and we never went near the wastegate, so the next move is to reset the ECU. Resetting the ECU is as simple as disconnecting the negative battery connection. This essentially kills its brain in its sleep. Some say to let it sit unconnected overnight. Then reconnect the battery and start the car. Let it run until it's warm. This allows the ECU to gather airflow data, AFR data and EGR data. Resetting or reflashing is a smart thing to do when you modify your forced induction car, because if you install that mondo air intake or that high flow exhaust, the ECU will just work extra hard to counteract it because it wants to run optimally at the level of performance your car had before you installed the new parts, the stock level. We disconnected the Starion's battery multiple times when working on it on jacks. My dad pulled it out of the garage and presumably parked it at the curb. If he didn't let it warm up or rev up, however, the ECU would gather all its operating data from a cold engine and a much lower rev limit. Then when you try to use the car at a warmed up temperature, the ECU attempts to compensate for what it perceives to be an overheating and redlining by cutting fuel and calming the car down, as it were. That's my theory, at least. SO, hopefully all we have to do is reset the ECU again and let it run till it's warm, maybe put it in neutral and redline it once. ----- 08 NOVEMBER 2009 I went up from san luis to davis this weekend to see my gf and for the big football game. i also bought a sweet bicycle friday haha, pics [at bottom]. So, I only spent like an hour at my house, and my dad had the Starion in the garage and he was replacing a narrow coolant hose that sprung a pinhole leak. I'm not sure exactly what the hose does, but it's turbo and/or temperature related I believe. Anyways, it's been doing its fuel / rev cut thing, and the ECU reset thing didn't work. We were kinda stumped. But then this hose busted a leak. So my dad got a replacement, and when he took the old one off he found that the metal tube it connected to was almost completely clogged with rust, like a rust blood clot. He removed it, and I left my house before he put the new hose on. He called me later and said he drove it with the new hose, and when he pushed the revs to look for the point where it would cut off, it just didn't. He said it drove "like a scalded cat". So, it's our assumption that the rust blockage was caused because the fitment is vertical and when the engine isnt running, moisture sits in the mouth of the metal tube and corrodes. It made a clot over the years, blocked the coolant, and somehow activated a fuel cut or a plumbing gremlin. BUT, bottom line, the Starion lives! And doesn't overheat! And it spools! Next mission is repairing the exhaust center section and smogging it, fingers crossed. After that new tires. Maybe. ----- 18 NOVEMBER 2009 THE STARION PASSED SMOG TODAY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ----- 20 NOVEMBER 2009 I'm home! I drove the Starion today and it was an absolute champ. Shifted like butter with no slosh when it's in gear, a lot quiter now that it actually has exhaust, good oil pressure and engine temp, lights flipped up nicely, and the new seats were a real step up from the previous seats. I couldn't wind it up too much, it was a rainy here and the tires aren't exactly grip monsters. It started to get loose as i got on the freeway at one point. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0336.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0338.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0340.jpg Fresh plates http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0341.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0339.jpg my dad just showed me this, the smog slip. im so proud of this car haha. MAX is the maximum passing amount, AVE is the average for a passing car, MEAS is what the Starion put out http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/Smog11-09.jpg PS, this is my other new toy , a vintage Univega Nuovo Sport http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Univega11-09.jpg

blue zip ties

old bumper face, with remnants of a license plate bracket that was a little too tight. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04695.jpg old bumper beam, foam core from new bumper, and foam core from old bumper that I will be using http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04697.jpg Before I got to sanding the new bumper, I decided to remove the air dam from the old one, which turned out to be a massive pain. Had to get out the corded dremel tool to get some rusted nuts off. It's a 3-piece air dam, and one of the side pieces was split completely in two from the accident so I sewed it back together. I'll tighten it up when it's mounted on the car http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04700.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04702.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04698.jpg The jigsaw puzzle that is my air dam http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04703.jpg

Things are moving along. Got all my water pump/cooling system parts except one, which should hopefully be here shortly. In the meantime, I set about ripping the Starion's face off... for bodywork purposes. This made my car very happy. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0226.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/Awesome.png So then I removed the driver's side headlight, the one with the the broken motor, and set about transfering the headlight, housing, trim and cover to one of the new ones I got from conquest707 (thanks again!). http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04673.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04676.jpg It worked like a charm and I now have two operational headlights. Pics of that later. Next I test fitted the new bumper beam I acquired and painted. It fit well, and I've found the spot in the old beam where the car was hit and the mounting points were fookt. here's what the mounting point is supposed to look like: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04687.jpg here's what the driver's side point looked like: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04689.jpg as you can see, that one mount took the majority of the hit. thankfully. and also, thankfully i have another one. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0222.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0223.jpg I put my new spark plugs in too. Kind of a pain to get at them but whatevs. Sanding/priming body panels next, then valve cover gasket, then thermostat, fan switches and water pump.

haha seems to be a common sq thing. "sweet! automatic climate control in a 1987 car?" "yeah but the ac doesn't work" thanks i noticed your sig in another thread. very nice overdue progress update. Transmission/cooling system overhaul/bodywork frenzy are not yet over, the car is still on jacks in the garage haha. here's whats happened since my last post. C/P'd from another forum. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0194.jpg This whole operation has taken a lot longer than i would've liked. So the new transmission is now in, but the prop shaft is not, as the u joints are fookt, but refuse to come out of the yolks. We had to use an acetylene torch, sawzall and rotary tool to get the first one off. Here is our family friend Cy, who is quite handy with torch and most power tools, going to town on it: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0191.jpg Now I know U joints don't usually work like this. When we did the Triumph's, all we had to do was hit the shoulder of the yolk with a hammer and the cap of the u-joint starts to pop up. Not so with Mitsubishi :/ Next we had to extract the old transmission, but the bolts had been tightened by farging lou ferrigno. So Cy brought his torque wrench and some hardcore box-end extensions... POWAR! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0196.jpg Success. Guess which one came out of my car. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0198.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0199.jpg Now imagine this, but all over the bottom of my car. It's like Kuwait. Hot and covered in oil. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0200.jpg Inside the new trans, not much to see http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0201.jpg New release bearing F YEAH! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0207.jpg Whilst Cy and my dad put the new trans in the car, I busied myself with beautification. New foglight out of my free bumper (temporary) http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0209.jpg And I decided my car was a perfect candidate for being MAD JDM TYTE YO! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0210.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0211.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0212.jpg After that whole adventure, I shampooed my new seats and shampooed the rugs in the car, and now it smells a s*** ton better. Threw the new seats in yesterday, my car is now ron burgundy-er than ever http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0215.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0216.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0217.jpg I'm going to prep the new bumper, mount, and headlight housings for paint today. Oh, ps, I went to the DMV the other day to attempt to register it, and received some interesting information. Turns out this car hasn't been registered since 2003. The 2010 tag that's on it is fake or stolen. It's not even supposed to have plates, the tow company was supposed to keep them. So, I ended up paying $500 for a fooking temp registration card, I get a real one when I get a bill of sale thing filled out by the previous owner (not difficult) and get it smogged (very difficult). Smog will be an adventure because I discovered that the muffler is not connected to the cat because the pipe has been hacked apart. muffler shop here i come.

haha word travels fast. yeah east bay. so the car is still up on jacks, the new trans is in, but the prop shaft needed new u joints, and of course we discovered that the water pump is leaky. this is what you get for $850 haha. all that aside though, i still want to replace the fan switches and the thermostat. i know theres two switches on the bottom left/right of the radiator, but which one turns one fan on and which turns both on?

yeah, nice dogs.

okay that helps. of course ive just discovered that the fans do run , just not till it's boiling lava hot. must be a thermo sensor. is it possible that one or both of the sensors are faulty or calibrated too high?

thanks to scotty dont for my new transmission. it should be going in this weekend, ive already cleaned it up a bit: before http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0177.jpg after http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0184.jpg my shifter bushing arrived. seems to be the correct part: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/IMG_0189.jpg on my way back from picking it up, however, the Starion overheated a bit. I noticed the temp was high and the oil pressure was low so I pulled into a gas station to make sure there it had oil. it did, albeit dark oil. i eased it home. when i opened the hood at home, water came out of the the overflow reservoir onto the street, and i could hear water in the reservoir boiling. I let it cool for about 45 minutes, then went to top it up with water and coolant. surprisingly, it only took about 4 oz. i checked the oil again to make sure it was normal and there were no signs of anything leaking in via a blown head gasket, that checked out okay. then i started it again, it fired right up, but the temp gauge steadily crept up. then i noticed that none of the three fans surrounding the radiator were running. my dad poked around and asked if maybe the fuse was blown. in the main fuse box panel thing in the interior, there's no fuse for cooling fans. SO, my question is, is there an in-line fuse to the cooling fan that may have blown? I'm no pro at wiring diagrams, but the 86 service manual (page 7) (SQGarage doesn't have the 87 manual. d'oh!) appears to show a fuse between the battery and the fan motors. the other thing i think it could be is a faulty thermosensor that just isn't telling the fans to turn on. halp plz

yusssss thank you! if Jose doesn't come through for me, that's excellent to have. Thank you! Anyways, Awesome day. Woke up early, picked up my friend Alex, put gas in the Starion and drove to San Jo to see a friend from another forum who owns the F430 Scuderia pictured here and here, to pick up the Momo shift knob he offered me fo' free (happyface). Great success, drove home, got in my mum's Expedition and drove up to Napa to get parts from conquest707 (thanks again man!): WINNAR! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04606.jpg That's right, a pair of Ron Burgundy seats, bumper, mount and foglamps, driver's side fender, lazy eye headlight housings and motors, and the thing in the plastic bag is an oil cooler. You guys already knew that but this is mostly a carbon copy of what I posted on other forums haha How much you ask? Free. All of it. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04603.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04604.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04605.jpg So I got home, stored all my loot, and set about replacing that ghastly shift knob. This is what followed (there is profanity, it was an upsetting experience): YouTube - PSA: Don't Glue Your Shift Knob http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04620.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04621.jpg You can see that it got chewed up as I tried to pry it off... http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04626.jpg In the end though, I was victorious... Thanks again to my buddy Nick! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/volleyballurrrr/Starion/DSC04649.jpg

Called Mitsubishi of Concord, the parts guy Jose said he ordered me one. For you or anyone in the same situation I would hesitate to do the same until it arrives and I can verify for you that it's the right part. I can also give a part number when it arrives.

O.o If that's a widebody driver's side fender I see in the CL ad, dibs on that. And if you have a front bumper/bumper beam, foglamps, mirror switch, and a good condition driver's seat... dibs! haha. I'll be there to peruse in the early afternoon. PM inbound